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Welcome to Game Update 2.1: Customization

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Welcome to Game Update 2.1: Customization
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Jankosnooker
05.16.2013 , 04:19 PM | #201
I haven't complained, publicly about this game before.

I have loved it since day one, and I have stood behind the devs a lot while the seemingly entitled consumer base went crazy complaining about everything.

However.

The way the dyes are in this update is freaking ridiculous.

1: Making them a cartel lottery is asinine.

2. Making both primary and secondary on one dye pack is asinine.

3. Making the most popular color combos super-rare is beyond ludicrous.

Customization is supposed to be about fun. It's supposed to be about personalization. It's supposed to be about CUSTOMIZING my character the way I want. Not the way BioWare thinks I want it.

I have had a gripe about the "customization" in this game since launch when their idea of "customizing" our companions was choosing one of 8 available faces for them. I have always wanted to be able to use (what is very much like the current kiosk, or) the character creation setup to customize my companions. I understand why we couldn't, and I accepted it.

Then, over a year later, I finally get teased about an entire update about customization just to be completely let down and fell completely mislead. I haven't been able to do one bit of customizing, (as a subscriber since day one mind you) because I've already used my "free" coins this month.

Cosmetic customizations should be available for credits, and not just coins.

Primary and secondary dye packs should be on separate slots allowing actual customization of our characters. New hair styles should be available for all species, ESPECIALLY if you're making us pay for it with real world money, and there should be tons more. At this point, I refuse to buy the human hair styles, as I will just have to buy them again when they offer them for the other species.

This update is a joke.

I will not unsub due to it, but it has also made me vow to not buy any more coins ever. The least you can do, if you are going to charge us real money for some of this junk, is allow us to purchase exactly what we want with said real money.

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Jankosnooker
05.16.2013 , 04:30 PM | #202
I also want to say that I get the idea of microtransations. I really do. I have no issue with it in theory.

However. They way this is being handled is beyond ridiculous.

three or four new hairstyles for a couple of hundred coins. For Humans only.

Three new tattoos for only one species. For a couple hundred more coins.

A new species for 600 coins, oh but wait, it's another 700+ to customize that species.

It would cost me almost $20 in real money for me to use this "update" just to fix a few cosmetic things on my characters I've wanted to fix since day one when we were told "barber shops are not something that a new game needs", and to unlock a new species, which, honestly, should have been included in the expansion.

Twenty dollars for just cosmetic changes, and that's not even including the amount it might cost to try and get my sith in black on black clothing.

This is really a bad move on your part BioWare.

I hope you read this thread and allow it to sink in that not one person in this thread is completely happy. There are a very select minority that have been "ok" at best with it.

There are entire threads (on these forums) that were started to do nothing but complain about this that at least have people taking both sides. This update though seems to have a very large portion of the population of this game complaining.

I know the forums are full of complainers, but even in game. I can't find anyone in general chat happy with this update.

I can't find anyone on the RP website I am a part of that is happy with this.

And I am not even talking about people that are 100% happy. I can;t find one person that is 50% happy with this.

Major bad move on BioWare and EA's parts. This update is very poorly thought out and implemented.

At this point, I am hoping we get tossed a bone at some point, as my hope for my future enjoyment of this game is waning big time now.

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Aikura
05.16.2013 , 06:31 PM | #203
With the dust settling a little, I am now quite happy at least with the Collections feature (it’s actually working now, for a start!). Still some disappointments, with the dye lottery in particular, but overall happy to have more stuff in the game than before.

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Velostodon
05.16.2013 , 09:08 PM | #204
Quote: Originally Posted by BlackoutSNSD View Post
cant play because after i log in it just stuck on loading screen
For the most part, a crash to desktop during this point is due to memory leak. Try this:

To enable the 3GB switch on Windows Vista™ or Windows 7:
1 . Right-click Command Prompt in the Accessories program group of the Start menu. Click Run as Administrator.
2. At the command prompt, enter "bcdedit /set increaseuserva 3072"
3. Restart the computer.

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JMacneish
05.17.2013 , 05:58 AM | #205
would of been better if you gave ALL races extra looks i use cyborg and sith mostly so im NOT happy atm

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FatZomby
05.17.2013 , 12:19 PM | #206
I like the new Cathar that they added. Looks great!

As far as the other customizations go though, I think they are a little pricey. Oh well, I don't really play human toons much anyway....

The thing that really mads me is the change with the carbon chamber, kolto tanks, Shan holo's, and Malgus holo's are all bound now. Would have never bought them if I knew they would do this with them. Kind of makes me mad. Those were not exactly rated high on getting, and yet now they are bound....? ***!!!! They should have been more specific with what should have been bound. Or perhaps made them legacy bound instead.

For example: all those items that there are listed over 100+ times on the market and are sold dirt cheap because no one or very few people want them.... Soo much for being known for the carbon freeze guy with as many new toons as I play....

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CoryButler
05.17.2013 , 12:36 PM | #207 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Howdy, folks. Cory Butler here to follow-up on some of your concerns that have been surfacing in the forums and on social media sites around Game Update 2.1: Customization. First, it's important to know that 2.1 will not affect the cadence of our game update schedule. 2.1 was the second half of our Cartel Market implementation plan. So, do not expect to see this type of Market-driven update on a regular basis. This release was comprised almost entirely of cosmetic options that have no impact on combat balance or gameplay. Vanity modifications are the kinds of things, in general, that we’ve always planned to offer in the Cartel Market for purchase by all players and in some cases, like with Appearance Designer changes, discounted for subscribers -- having said that, we’ve heard some frustration from subscribers that, even with these kinds of offerings, we ought to do more to recognize subscriber status. We hear you loud and clear. Please stay tuned.

To continue on the point of content cadence, I know in a separate post Eric discussed a bit about our cadence and that our plan is for all of you to see content within an 8-week window from Rise of the Hutt Cartel’s launch, I would recommend reading his post for more details, here. What I do want to do is assure you that we have many more things in the works here at BioWare that aren’t Cartel Market features, and are the exact types of content you folks have been asking about. I cannot go into specifics yet but we are definitely working on things like new Flashpoints, Operations, daily hubs, events, PvP, and even the super-secret space project! Game Update 2.1 is just one of the many Updates you will get from us this year and I am really excited about what is still to come and I think you will be too.

Until next time -- see you in-game!
Cory Butler - Producer

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Benfynyn
05.17.2013 , 12:50 PM | #208
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryButler View Post
Howdy, folks. Cory Butler here to follow-up on some of your concerns that have been surfacing in the forums and on social media sites around Game Update 2.1: Customization. First, it's important to know that 2.1 will not affect the cadence of our game update schedule. 2.1 was the second half of our Cartel Market implementation plan. So, do not expect to see this type of Market-driven update on a regular basis. This release was comprised almost entirely of cosmetic options that have no impact on combat balance or gameplay. Vanity modifications are the kinds of things, in general, that we’ve always planned to offer in the Cartel Market for purchase by all players and in some cases, like with Appearance Designer changes, discounted for subscribers -- having said that, we’ve heard some frustration from subscribers that, even with these kinds of offerings, we ought to do more to recognize subscriber status. We hear you loud and clear. Please stay tuned.

To continue on the point of content cadence, I know in a separate post Eric discussed a bit about our cadence and that our plan is for all of you to see content within an 8-week window from Rise of the Hutt Cartel’s launch, I would recommend reading his post for more details, here. What I do want to do is assure you that we have many more things in the works here at BioWare that aren’t Cartel Market features, and are the exact types of content you folks have been asking about. I cannot go into specifics yet but we are definitely working on things like new Flashpoints, Operations, daily hubs, events, PvP, and even the super-secret space project! Game Update 2.1 is just one of the many Updates you will get from us this year and I am really excited about what is still to come and I think you will be too.

Until next time -- see you in-game!
Maybe next time don't release a cartel market only update.

"I cannot go into specifics yet but we are definitely working on things like new Flashpoints, Operations, daily hubs, events, PvP, and even the super-secret space project! " Pics or it didn't happen.
Quote: Originally Posted by JovethGonzalez View Post

After some investigation, it appears that there was some miscommunication between teams and this patch note was not intended to be included in this last patch.

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Mark-JPS
05.17.2013 , 12:51 PM | #209
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryButler View Post
Howdy, folks. Cory Butler here to follow-up on some of your concerns that have been surfacing in the forums and on social media sites around Game Update 2.1: Customization. First, it's important to know that 2.1 will not affect the cadence of our game update schedule. 2.1 was the second half of our Cartel Market implementation plan. So, do not expect to see this type of Market-driven update on a regular basis. This release was comprised almost entirely of cosmetic options that have no impact on combat balance or gameplay. Vanity modifications are the kinds of things, in general, that we’ve always planned to offer in the Cartel Market for purchase by all players and in some cases, like with Appearance Designer changes, discounted for subscribers -- having said that, we’ve heard some frustration from subscribers that, even with these kinds of offerings, we ought to do more to recognize subscriber status. We hear you loud and clear. Please stay tuned.

To continue on the point of content cadence, I know in a separate post Eric discussed a bit about our cadence and that our plan is for all of you to see content within an 8-week window from Rise of the Hutt Cartel’s launch, I would recommend reading his post for more details, here. What I do want to do is assure you that we have many more things in the works here at BioWare that aren’t Cartel Market features, and are the exact types of content you folks have been asking about. I cannot go into specifics yet but we are definitely working on things like new Flashpoints, Operations, daily hubs, events, PvP, and even the super-secret space project! Game Update 2.1 is just one of the many Updates you will get from us this year and I am really excited about what is still to come and I think you will be too.

Until next time -- see you in-game!
Thanks Cory, now hearing this from you, I'm excited. Please continue to release worthy game updates where we subscribers will feel that what we're paying is worth it

Four flashpoints for level 55 is getting boring, needs more and operations as well. Even without story, as long as there are rewards, etc will be fine. As for the space update, I do hope it will be changed to non-rail.

Again, I'm excited and let's hope this will turn into another empty promises again.

As I mentioned earlier in other threads, I hope the controversy in Game update 2.1 is a wake up call.

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Tatile
05.17.2013 , 12:54 PM | #210
Quote: Originally Posted by CoryButler View Post
Howdy, folks. Cory Butler here to follow-up on some of your concerns that have been surfacing in the forums and on social media sites around Game Update 2.1: Customization. First, it's important to know that 2.1 will not affect the cadence of our game update schedule. 2.1 was the second half of our Cartel Market implementation plan. So, do not expect to see this type of Market-driven update on a regular basis. This release was comprised almost entirely of cosmetic options that have no impact on combat balance or gameplay. Vanity modifications are the kinds of things, in general, that we’ve always planned to offer in the Cartel Market for purchase by all players and in some cases, like with Appearance Designer changes, discounted for subscribers -- having said that, we’ve heard some frustration from subscribers that, even with these kinds of offerings, we ought to do more to recognize subscriber status. We hear you loud and clear. Please stay tuned.

To continue on the point of content cadence, I know in a separate post Eric discussed a bit about our cadence and that our plan is for all of you to see content within an 8-week window from Rise of the Hutt Cartel’s launch, I would recommend reading his post for more details, here. What I do want to do is assure you that we have many more things in the works here at BioWare that aren’t Cartel Market features, and are the exact types of content you folks have been asking about. I cannot go into specifics yet but we are definitely working on things like new Flashpoints, Operations, daily hubs, events, PvP, and even the super-secret space project! Game Update 2.1 is just one of the many Updates you will get from us this year and I am really excited about what is still to come and I think you will be too.

Until next time -- see you in-game!
But not story content?

You've really dropped Class Stories as part of development? I thought that was just a horrible rumour.