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Most powerful Sith Lord ever (essential read)

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Wolfninjajedi
06.24.2013 , 01:59 PM | #281
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
But as a plot device, I feel he's pretty much done. He's built up his Empire, filled the holes in KOTOR I and KOTOR II, pushed SWTOR in to action, attempted his master plan, and acted as a final boss for the Jedi Knight. All I see left for him to do is become 'everyone's enemy' and be destroyed for a final time. Then its over for him, in my opinion.

And 2000 BBY is when the Sith reemerge under Darth Ruin. As per current canon the Jedi and the Republic have experienced a long period of peace. I'd say that this war ends 3,500 BBY at the latest. Because it is at that point that an extension is made to the Jedi Temple - which is currently in ruin and far from top priority. I can't imagine this war going on for over 1,000 years...

And when was it stated that SWTOR would reach Lvl 100? I'm not sure even WoW has reached that level. Is this just your assumption based on the nature of MMOs?
That and he doesn't really do anything(as far as I recall, I mean aside from what he already has done which is more personal things), the Dark Council is what runs the Empire and has been doing everything, Vitiate just seems like a shut in and away from everyone else, he built the Empire sure but he doesn't seem to run it. So him not being around, doesn't really make any difference other then power grabs....which were happening anyway.
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S_W_LeGenD
06.24.2013 , 02:51 PM | #282
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
But as a plot device, I feel he's pretty much done. He's built up his Empire, filled the holes in KOTOR I and KOTOR II, pushed SWTOR in to action, attempted his master plan, and acted as a final boss for the Jedi Knight. All I see left for him to do is become 'everyone's enemy' and be destroyed for a final time. Then its over for him, in my opinion.
I also think that Tenebrae is likely to go down due to sum of multitude of reasons; "everyone's enemy" as you put, is a possibility since he is a threat to the entire Galaxy now. The Force is no longer with him. It shall be kept in mind that many individuals in the Sith Empire are still loyal to Tenebrae, as per current scenario, since Darth Malgus was not accepted by them as Sith Emperor.

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And 2000 BBY is when the Sith reemerge under Darth Ruin. As per current canon the Jedi and the Republic have experienced a long period of peace. I'd say that this war ends 3,500 BBY at the latest. Because it is at that point that an extension is made to the Jedi Temple - which is currently in ruin and far from top priority. I can't imagine this war going on for over 1,000 years...
Well, Star Wars canon is continuously improved and updated with passage of time. Their is enormous room for content creation between era depicted in this (SWTOR) game and rise of Darth Ruin so who knows.

Let us count the number of affiliated conflicts:-

- Force Wars (100 years)
- Great Hyperspace War ---------------------> reconstitution of ancient Sith Empire under leadership of Tenebrae
- Great Sith War (Marka Ragnos involved)
- Mandalorian Wars (Tenebrae involved)
- Jedi Civil War (Tenebrae involved)
- Sith Triumvirate (aftermath of Jedi Civil War; Tenebrae indirectly responsible)
- Great Galactic War <-------------------------- reconstituted ancient Sith Empire returns under leadership of Tenebrae
???

RIse of Darth Ruin around 2000 BBY

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And when was it stated that SWTOR would reach Lvl 100? I'm not sure even WoW has reached that level. Is this just your assumption based on the nature of MMOs?
This seems to be the case. I mean, why introduce content up to level 55, if level 50 represented the end of current storylines? The war continues....

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That and he doesn't really do anything(as far as I recall, I mean aside from what he already has done which is more personal things), the Dark Council is what runs the Empire and has been doing everything, Vitiate just seems like a shut in and away from everyone else, he built the Empire sure but he doesn't seem to run it. So him not being around, doesn't really make any difference other then power grabs....which were happening anyway.
I am leaving you a hint;

Spoiler


The source contains lot more information but this hint might be sufficient. To learn more, I advice that you buy the book; I won't be revealing more.
My favorite Star Wars book: Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

My favorite Star Wars character: Vitiate

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Kaedusz
06.24.2013 , 03:08 PM | #283
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Vitiate only grew more powerful because he consumed the life force of 8,000 Sith Lords
Not relevant to any ongoing discussion,just shoving something in between.

Imagine if Palpatine ate 8000 Sith Lords+ everything else living on Nathema,thats how powerful Vitiate is.And now imagine dealing with the Dark Side for ONE THOUSAND AND THREE HUNDRED YEARS.Experience matters.Sidious was what ?70-90 when he died (or when he *first* died,if we count post ep6,EU,derp)
There can't be an immensely huge difference between Vitiate and Sidious in episode 1(Plagueis is still alive).Remember .Vitiate could do *advanced* force techinques when he was a small kid,6-12 years old.Not only was Vitiate more talented in the force and has deeper affinity for the dark side,he is also more evil than Sidious.Vitiate is freak.

8000 Sith Lords is what?100 Palpatines?It can't be less than 20 Palpatines.Or 2 if i am super lenient.

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Beniboybling
06.24.2013 , 03:09 PM | #284
I think the Sith Emperor's rule is all but over. The Republic are claiming he is dead and the Dark Council under Darth Marr and moving on without him. I think BioWare are setting up this idea of a new era without the Emperor. He's not longer pulling the strings, he's lost all control.

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Beniboybling
06.24.2013 , 03:10 PM | #285
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedusz View Post
Imagine if Palpatine ate 8000 Sith Lords+ everything else living on Nathema,thats how powerful Vitiate is.And now imagine dealing with the Dark Side for ONE THOUSAND AND THREE HUNDRED YEARS.
There can't be an immensely huge difference between Vitiate and Sidious in episode 1(Plagueis is still alive).Remember .Vitiate could do *advanced* force techinques when he was a small kid,6-12 years old.Not only was Vitiate more talented in the force and has deeper affinity for the dark side,he is also more evil than Sidious.Vitiate is freak.

8000 Sith Lords is what?100 Palpatines?It can't be less than 20 Palpatines.Or 2 if i am super lenient.
Imagine being the pinnacle of dark side power. That's Sidious.

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Kaedusz
06.24.2013 , 03:12 PM | #286
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Imagine being the pinnacle of dark side power. That's Sidious.
Can't see it.

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S_W_LeGenD
06.24.2013 , 03:12 PM | #287
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
I think the Sith Emperor's rule is all but over. The Republic are claiming he is dead and the Dark Council under Darth Marr and moving on without him. I think BioWare are setting up this idea of a new era without the Emperor. He's not longer pulling the strings, he's lost all control.
Well, it is early to bring him back since he is in weakened and vulnerable state. Just like Sidious once was.

Current scenario paves way for the developers to focus upon Satele Shan, Darth Marr and other prominent characters for a while since Sith Emperor overshadowed them otherwise.

Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Imagine being the pinnacle of dark side power. That's Sidious.
Pinnacle of dark side power would be the incarnation that Tenebrae planned/prepared to accomplish. Nothing else comes close.
My favorite Star Wars book: Star Wars: The Old Republic: Encyclopedia

My favorite Star Wars character: Vitiate

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Beniboybling
06.24.2013 , 03:16 PM | #288
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Can't see it.
.......*sigh*

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Beniboybling
06.24.2013 , 03:26 PM | #289
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Pinnacle of dark side power would be the incarnation that Tenebrae planned/prepared to accomplish. Nothing else comes close.
Well, from a certain point of view.

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Colton_
06.24.2013 , 03:33 PM | #290
I must agree. Vitiate is much more powerful than Sidious. In the title it says "powerful". Not sneaky and tricking people(Although, Vitiate tricked many people as well, luring 8,000 Sith to Nathema to consume them), powerful. Vitiate obviously knew much more of Sith sorcery and powers than Sidious. Heck, he made himself immortal of disease. Sure, Sidious might have been smarter with his plan but let's face it; Vitiate was much more powerful than Sidious.
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