dnoisette Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Ok, I'm admittely hijacking a thread that already exists on other classes forums, the Jedi Consular one being the most active one from what I can tell. I apologize to those who primarily started them but judging by the success they encountered, it occured to me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to have our own. This thread is meant to offer players the opportunity to post the armor designs they like and/or made themselves and would like to see introduced in SWTOR. I hope many of you guys will come and share your thoughts on the subject so that maybe, MAYBE, we'd have a chance to catch some dev's attention and influence the direction taken by the art team on sith warrior gear. I'll start myself with some designs that are from the Force Unleashed and have always amazed me: Marauder/Assassin set (would look great on assassin as well although it's off topic ) Juggernaut/Marauder alternative Perfect look for marauders . Here's another view. Of course some, recoloring might be needed but still, the point is pretty clear. Feel free to share your thoughts and ideas on the subject ! I'd really like to see what the community can come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atreyuz Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 I want this for my marauder http://altrimondigcsd.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/conan.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scerge Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 (edited) I think the armor is fine.... And by the way I hate Starkiller that mary sue in male form. Edited March 30, 2012 by Scerge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harukaze Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Otherwise known as a Martin Stu. Yeah... he's one video game character who never should have gotten into canon. And what the **** are they going to do now? TFU2 was an utter failure, but unlike the first game, the story doesn't come to any closure. They've completely destroyed any chance of a decent story. They were also idiots with the first game. Size matters not? In general, no, it doesn't. But force matters. The Force can apply a force - this is not a pun, I'm talking physics here - and no example of the Force in any legitimate source has shown a Force user capable of overcoming the force output by a set of engines - let alone the size of engines on a Star Destroyer. Directing a Star Destroyer as it crashes to a planet? No problem! Pulling a Star Destroyer with perfectly functional engines down out of orbit? HUGE EFFING PROBLEM. Gah. *sighs* I've digressed way too far afield and I apologize. He truly pisses me off. The first game was fun, but the story ... argh. No, I'm shutting up now. As for gear, I do agree that the *look* of Starkiller is acceptable, and would give us some nice diversity. I want less idiotic masks, or better yet circlets or crowns. Only a handful of canonical Sith had their faces entirely hidden by masks - most had headdresses and the like. I'd love those. I spent time working on my Warrior's face, damnit, I want to SEE him. I'd die for a headdress from the pages of Tales of the Jedi. I don't want a lot of Luke-era looking stuff though; I'd much prefer to see stuff that looks like it's supposed to be from an earlier age. Tales of the Jedi is the ONLY source to give us that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zilrota Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Hey Sith Warriors! Great initiative here! Please do feel free to share your Sith Warrior specific feedback here in this thread. Also, take a look at these recent posts from StephenReid regarding feedback on armor sets. Hey everyone, thank you to everyone who took the time to leave feedback. The development team are very aware of everyone's thoughts and we've particularly appreciated constructive comments which will always give us a better idea about how to change things in the game. Wholesale changes to the armor sets in Game Update 1.2 are not possible at this time. Creating new armor sets is a process with a long lead time, so changes cannot be made quickly. However, we're listening to your feedback and that will influence things going forward. We would also urge you to look at the armor sets in-game. With the new color matching options available in Game Update 1.2 and higher resolution textures, some of you might be more impressed by armor sets in-game. With that said, we'd like to make this discussion a bit more constructive moving forward. We understand some of you aren't fans of the armor sets as shown; that's fine, and we've heard you loud and clear. We've also heard the calls to make armor more 'iconic' and 'more Star Wars like' - and thanks to those of you who provided reference to your favorite armor styles. We'd like to see more of that, so feel free to provide more constructive comments on what you feel your end game armor styles should look like for your class in The Old Republic. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3691938#edit3691938 We'd prefer to see links to inspirational sources, rather than "Make it look exactly like this". That gives the artists ideas. With that said, we've heard the requests for some sort of community interaction on future armor sets, and we're looking into that. http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=3692131#edit3692131 We also encourage you to share your feedback and thoughts in the thread that Stephen commented in as well! Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulup Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 second pic is HOT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryHash Posted March 30, 2012 Share Posted March 30, 2012 Possibly something like this http://www.testq.com/nfs/testq/photos/0001/5205/Cyborg_ninja-lados_3_views.jpg but with a half-face mask, or a more traditional helmet. (And maybe a little less anime.) I agree with Harukaze, in that there are too many stupid masks. I want to see my corruption, dammit! As warriors, they wouldn't want a full-face-enclosing-omg-where-is-my-peripheral-vision style headdress. Rebreather style or crown style plays both into the warrior ethos and the Sith backstory. Quick google image search also turns up the following: http://th06.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2010/190/f/3/Sith_Lord_in_Partial_armor_by_Torelvorn.jpg http://evil-wizards.org/swtor-wiki/images/a/a3/RedSithArmor.jpg http://images.wikia.com/swfanon/images/5/5d/SithJedi.jpg All look pretty cool (even the emo one) and seem to be pretty different from what I see on my server. Not sure if that's a fair call to apply to other servers, but them's the brakes. Last thing I've noticed is the design of the armor itself. Heavy armor doesn't look heavy on small characters, medium armor often looks heavy on big ones. Medium armor is much more suitable than heavy, but I feel there should be that properly solid look. I know what I bring up now is something that's probably immutable, but there has to be some way to design the armor to look properly solid/flexible, regardless of character. I propose the space marine effect...GIANT SHOULDER PADS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 It could not have been that difficult to take i.e. the level 50 pvp set and gradually upgrade from simpler versions to the "full thing". Right now leveling a maraudeur is painfull in every cutscene. There is just nothing "class iconic" about the stuff we get: Either it looks like a sorc or it looks like some... rags? It get's even more frustrating when each an every one of your NPCs is wearing something cool. Thana, i.e. or even random sith-guards standing in bases... And there doesn't even be anything close to resemble the progression video... I think I've looked at about anything google could find, anything a synthweaver can do and even asked in the maraudeurs forum for help finding something less 'painfull'. But the answer it all comes down to: This class has no nice gear until it hits 50. Honesty: Take the pvp set for 50 Remove spikes - 40 Smaller boots, less robe - 30 Drop the hood - 20 There. Thats a progressive style. And if it's modable even better: players can pick the simpler version if prefered or 'upgrade' the looks to their available tier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnoisette Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 Honesty: Take the pvp set for 50 Remove spikes - 40 Smaller boots, less robe - 30 Drop the hood - 20 There. Thats a progressive style. And if it's modable even better: players can pick the simpler version if prefered or 'upgrade' the looks to their available tier. This. Plus, the armor already exists in game, there's no need for a complete new design. That could be a good thing to start with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 Aaaand another NPC laughing in my face at my low looks: Hoth - Keresha Yald - Sith Warrior Trainer Give me that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouTJumped Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 http://www.google.com/imgres?q=sith+warrior&um=1&hl=en&safe=off&sa=N&rlz=1C1CHKZ_enUS431US431&biw=1600&bih=799&tbm=isch&tbnid=OjeQ0G1u79wpVM:&imgrefurl=http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Sith_Warrior&docid=Nf7jIPYuFEY1tM&imgurl=http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/d/df/SithWarrior-TORHope.jpg&w=960&h=720&ei=JR13T9DYKs_qtgeJ19GIDw&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=294&vpy=184&dur=2203&hovh=194&hovw=259&tx=105&ty=93&sig=114702337171121670743&page=1&tbnh=132&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=32&ved=1t:429,r:1,s:0 aka the one you used in the trailers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnoisette Posted March 31, 2012 Author Share Posted March 31, 2012 Aaaand another NPC laughing in my face at my low looks: Hoth - Keresha Yald - Sith Warrior Trainer Give me that! I know, that one is almost everywhere except in our inventory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch_Zero Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 I actually really like the PVE marauder gear that we currently have. as well as powertech bounty hunter gear, Best in game. Worst armor in game is probably Sith Inquisitor, for PVP we are chickens for PVE we are Genghis khan. you can't deny this. Second is probably agent, they don't stand out as much, but maybe that's a good thing. third is PVE warrior tank set, Looks okay but in comparison to marauder it doesn't stand up. Actually the first time i saw marauder in a pve set i was like damn, that looks kinda creepy lookin! I'm gonna roll one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 For Level 50 the armor style might be ok. Not to everyones taste, but "ok". But until then, there is no concernable "Maraudeur-Style" that I would have noticed. Unless "random rags" and "dresses and some other sorc-stuff" is a style now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schneidend Posted March 31, 2012 Share Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Ok, I'm admittely hijacking a thread that already exists on other classes forums, the Jedi Consular one being the most active one from what I can tell. I apologize to those who primarily started them but judging by the success they encountered, it occured to me that it wouldn't be a bad idea to have our own. This thread is meant to offer players the opportunity to post the armor designs they like and/or made themselves and would like to see introduced in SWTOR. I hope many of you guys will come and share your thoughts on the subject so that maybe, MAYBE, we'd have a chance to catch some dev's attention and influence the direction taken by the art team on sith warrior gear. I'll start myself with some designs that are from the Force Unleashed and have always amazed me: Marauder/Assassin set (would look great on assassin as well although it's off topic ) Juggernaut/Marauder alternative Perfect look for marauders . Here's another view. Of course some, recoloring might be needed but still, the point is pretty clear. Feel free to share your thoughts and ideas on the subject ! I'd really like to see what the community can come up with. I hate all of these very strongly. Except some of those pics have Darth Vader in them, and my SW already has awesome armor that looks like Vader's awesome armor. I'd much prefer something like the armor designs in E.Y.E: Divine Cybermancy http://eye.streumon-studio.com/upload/screens/EYE_artworks_11.jpg http://eye.streumon-studio.com/upload/screens/eye_artwork_012.jpg Edited March 31, 2012 by Schneidend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibmachine Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 FROM A MARAUDER POINT OF VIEW: That's a massive no-brainer http://swtorhumanrelations.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/sith-marauder1.jpg Perfect look, honestly. Other than that I guess Force Unleashed costumes would make for decent guidelines. Here are some examples: http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs49/f/2009/220/b/b/Starkiller_by_Rinter.jpg - DA custom picture but colored black / red and it properly suit marauder. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_LBoiJX-K6F8/S_QZs1andZI/AAAAAAAAA6k/B1ao4rrh0f4/s1600/starkiller.jpg - Raxus Prime costume. Regular fabric meshed up with a bit of tech http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/b/b8/GalenStalkerArmor-TFUUSE.jpg - Sith Stalker armor. More tech, less fabric than in previous picture but still retains the agile marauder look Basically the idea behind marauder look is to use the same awesome level of detail as current sets have but put those details in right places aka less capes / skirts and more cloaks / hoods / freely flowing pieces of fabric which effectively move from juggernaut "imposing and powerful" to marauder "agile and deadly" theme. I'll provide some more examples when I get some sleep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 What kind of stuns me: There ARE lots and lots of armors IN GAME that would work perfectly. A nice place between the cloth wearing assasins and sorcerers and the heavy duty juggernaughts. LOTS. Every damn NPC is looking like a not-quite-juggernaught but definately not light-armor! GAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mythic_MK_II Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 I like the pvp armor for marauders. But if you could only put on your helm while having your hood on that would be epic.... why can't BW make the pvp helms classify as a mask? like the one that you mostly get for juggernauts? (the lvl 40 pvp juggy helm for example, it goes under your hood and still makes you wear your hood) If that would be possible that would be extremely awesome. making you look more like the sith in the trailers. (and give some Revan like look) And the ability to take of your hood. but not just completely remove it but just let it go down and rest on your shoulders/back. Like juggy PVP gear. Those things would make hooded robes more awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nymerias Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Marauder/Assassin set (would look great on assassin as well although it's off topic ) I would really love something like this for my mara. Or just giving me the one from the progression video would make me happy. I know some people love the robo-cop style, and I don't want to take it away from them, I would just like more orange options that fit my style too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillshock Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) Just checked the progression video again... damn, what a lie! the low level marauder doesn'T exist ingame - just a similar version for juggernauts.... and the "endgame" example is the juggernaut version of the pvp armor, isn't it? Hey, here's a challenge to the designers: "Make a progression video with the actual marauder gear!" XD Edited April 1, 2012 by chillshock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnoisette Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) A lot of classes did not get what was in their trailers but the thing with marauders is that they went a completely different way with little warnings. The chestpiece with cape+ skirt combo from lvl 30 to the end, that I wasn't expecting. Don't know exactly where this is from but recolour it in darker shades and it makes for a pretty cool look for marauders: Potential gear for Maras Alternative view I love that the chestpiece is simple and seems to be adapted to some sort of acrobatic combat style and still have the cape which adds a lot to the overall feeling of the set. I would maybe add a hood though. Plus apparently, the armor is in the game or was at some point. Couldn't find it so I assume it's beta gear. Damn, beta gear was so cool, maybe the devs should just bring it back. EDIT: Two more things to add. Can't say why but there's something in that pic that really appeals to me, looks like some sort of sorcerer and marauder armor mix and I just can't get it off my mind : Sneaky Finally, when I hear Marauder out of a Star Wars context, this is what I see: Mara (okay yes there's a lightsaber in that pic and I said "out of the Star Wars context"...but still you got the point ) In my mind, it's the kind of thing a real Marauder would wear, there's a reason why Obi-Wan and Anakin always take their robes off in the movies when fighting: it' easier to be quick and agile in melee when you can move freely. ps: I'm not a big fan of the Force Unleashed but the armor design is just too good to be ignored, which is why I often link it. Edited April 1, 2012 by dnoisette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordXalas Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 (edited) i want more robes and pants for maraudar. Main reason why i rerolled jedi sent and going to delete my maraudar for ajuggernaut coming 1.2 for my miraluka sith One i do want from TFU2 is the lightsaber holsters on the chest like Galen Marek aka starkiller has. I want those lightsaber holsters badly. Edited April 1, 2012 by LordXalas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dnoisette Posted April 1, 2012 Author Share Posted April 1, 2012 One i do want from TFU2 is the lightsaber holsters on the chest like Galen Marek aka starkiller has. I want those lightsaber holsters badly. Agreed, they definitely add something to the overall look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kinosuke Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Take Obi Wan's Armor from the clone wars cartoon and make it black and give it to Juggs. I love the simple Plate armor under a robe look, the terminator look isnt cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ_SAX_MAN Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Otherwise known as a Martin Stu. Yeah... he's one video game character who never should have gotten into canon. And what the **** are they going to do now? TFU2 was an utter failure, but unlike the first game, the story doesn't come to any closure. They've completely destroyed any chance of a decent story. They were also idiots with the first game. Size matters not? In general, no, it doesn't. But force matters. The Force can apply a force - this is not a pun, I'm talking physics here - and no example of the Force in any legitimate source has shown a Force user capable of overcoming the force output by a set of engines - let alone the size of engines on a Star Destroyer. Directing a Star Destroyer as it crashes to a planet? No problem! Pulling a Star Destroyer with perfectly functional engines down out of orbit? HUGE EFFING PROBLEM. Gah. *sighs* I've digressed way too far afield and I apologize. He truly pisses me off. The first game was fun, but the story ... argh. No, I'm shutting up now. As for gear, I do agree that the *look* of Starkiller is acceptable, and would give us some nice diversity. I want less idiotic masks, or better yet circlets or crowns. Only a handful of canonical Sith had their faces entirely hidden by masks - most had headdresses and the like. I'd love those. I spent time working on my Warrior's face, damnit, I want to SEE him. I'd die for a headdress from the pages of Tales of the Jedi. I don't want a lot of Luke-era looking stuff though; I'd much prefer to see stuff that looks like it's supposed to be from an earlier age. Tales of the Jedi is the ONLY source to give us that. Yeah well supposedly there are instances of whole planets being moved around too. Idk what the limits to the force are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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