Sarova Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 EVERYTHING BELOW IS A BIG FAT SPOILER - YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . I have questions regarding Task Force Nova & The Hand: I noticed during 6.1 that all the flags and banners in my Alliance base have been changed from Alliance Flags to Republic Task Force Nova flags/banners for my Republic characters and on Empire characters The Hand flags/banners. So far I've chosen to keep my alliance out of both of those and told them on all my characters so far to stick their offer to join either of the above. Why have Task Force Nova and the Hand been forced on me anyway? I want my Alliance to remain separate, displaying their alliance livery and only support their chosen faction, rather than be forced into the hand or the task force as they have. Is this flag/banner change for all intended? I'd expect it on the characters that chose to join but not on those that chose to stay separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulsutherland Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Yes! Can we have our Alliance banners back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setokai Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The way i see it, even if the alliance chooses to not join either faction, they are still being asked to support the hand or task force nova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 The way i see it, even if the alliance chooses to not join either faction, they are still being asked to support the hand or task force nova Sure, but the banners should still stay the same in the case of the Alliance remaining independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shinian Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I’d prefer no change as well. Are the banner blindingly bright for anyone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBaal Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Yes, at least inside the alliance control room. And i'ld prefere an independent Odessen to keep its own banners too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollmich Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Agreed. It makes no sense for those who chose the Alliance being independent to put slightly modified Republic banners all over Odessen. I liked pretty much everything about this small story update but those buggy banners got on my nerves. Yeah, yeah, I realize it's just a stupid little thing and not really a big deal. It's great that choices we made throughout Onslaught were referenced the dialogues in 6.1. But... can they matter all the time please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted February 15, 2020 Author Share Posted February 15, 2020 Thanks everyone, I'm glad there are many that agree. When I run through my characters who will fully rejoin their original factions then I'll be happy to change from Alliance to the new flags and banners, however for my characters that chose to stay separate, naff off with your new livery. I'd really like to see a Dev explanation for this. I’d prefer no change as well. Are the banner blindingly bright for anyone else? Yes - made a bug report with screen shots here Sure, but the banners should still stay the same in the case of the Alliance remaining independent. Indeed. Also I really didn't like he Hand and Task Force Nova sending their own contingent force to our base. Fine for those who completely rejoined but for those who stayed separate they should not have shown up uninvited to our base taking it over with their nonsense. For those of us who decided to remain separate, that meeting should have taken place off world (on a ship where we then allow them to land and bring their questions/updates/task force refugees or Darth Rivix and his must know everything tour). If they must have their own space then I nominate the little area behind the companion return terminal room or a corner of the main war room in which both Alliance Flags & either Task Force or Hand banners displayed in that area only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OlBuzzard Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 (edited) I agree... I also noticed that my MAIN was referred to as commodore. HE"S NOT ! None of my characters have agree to any conditions to return to the Republic. ALL of my characters have decided to remain independent. Frankly I figured that this thing with the banners was a bug since many players may have decided to rejoin the Republic. IMO.. the "rejoining" should still remain an option without anyone suffering "repercussions" in the story. That said … IMO there might be a point in time where the Alliance might outgrow my characters. But for now that is NOT the case. A good writer will know how to do that. ***My smuggler will still want to be independent. OK maybe he buys that space station on the outer rim that's large enough for him and his HAND PICKED crew (based on ALL of the companions and contacts he has from the alliance). ***My trooper / commando … yeah pretty much the same thing OR maybe commands his own "fleet" and of course hand picked squadron. ***My JK and Kira my or may not decide to return to the Jedi order. I rather suspect that their relationship could prove to be an issue so will probably decide to remain independent but VERY STRONGLY supportive of the Jedi and the Republic. I'm certain that a good writer would know how to do that. (OH ! the same would be true for the JC). In any event I do hope that the corrections are made with the banners... ALSO: (edit) I didn't mind the extra force from the Republic since we did agree to be a part of the task force. Having reinforcements and a more direct line of communication is always helpful. With one noted objection: I do hope that this is not a writers means of moving our independence under the umbrella of the Republic … that means we joined regardless ??? I don't think so !! Those additional ships and personnel will receive a quick escort back to Republic space !! Edited February 15, 2020 by OlBuzzard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElZaguero Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Color me clueless, but I didn't even notice the banners... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phalczen Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 I concur that it was somewhat surprising to see. I don’t really appreciate the banners being installed before the content is run! If you do not choose to become a member world of the Republic, then Their presence seems a little heavy handed, but I’ve only seen it (so far) from the JK perspective who chose to rejoin the republic and the Jedi order. I actually haven’t finished going through Onslaught with my troopers yet, but one of my Smugglers is independent so I am now anxious to see if the interactions are different. I mean my smuggler has made a decent working relationship with General Daerunn and Master Gnost-Dural but that doesn’t mean they can just show up with refugee ships any time they want I kind of expect it from the Empire though, saboteur or not, rejoin or stay independent. I felt there were some interesting choices there to at least have the pretense of our previous decisions mattering. But yeah the heavy handedness and inviting themselves in just seems like the Imperial thing to do. Would appreciate some feedback from Charles on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Color me clueless, but I didn't even notice the banners... I was the same, my first, or first couple of run throughs I had gone back to the empire, so the banners were normal, but when I went through with a char that didn't rejoin i noticed..lol. Alliance banners should stay if the char doesn't join Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldVengeance Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) I think the banners should remain as they were beforehand if the Alliance stays independent. But aiding refugees under Republic protection seems like part and parcel with being an ally of the Republic at all. Helping them is helping the Republic. Edited February 16, 2020 by OldVengeance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terro_Fett Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 (edited) I rejoined the Empire on nearly all Imperial characters, so it tooks me a while to notice this. I agree this is a terrible decision by the devs. If a player stayed independent then Odessen is still the "Alliance" first and foremost, there is absolutely no reason whatsoever to remove the Alliance banners. Edited February 16, 2020 by Terro_Fett Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JattaGin Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 I didn't notice this yet as all the banners are all super bright white glowing at the moment, impossible to look at without turning my eyes away quickly. However, I do NOT want to see any republic or imperial banners in MY Alliance base. If this is really a thing, please change it back, BW. I have one republic and one imperial char who sided with those two, just to see what happens. All other chars remain independent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damask_Rose Posted February 16, 2020 Share Posted February 16, 2020 Adding my voice to the dissent. None of my characters rejoined their original faction. It should not be forced on us! And the glaringly bright white banners look awful to boot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RameiArashi Posted February 18, 2020 Share Posted February 18, 2020 You didn't get the option to not accept extra forces from either side? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted February 18, 2020 Author Share Posted February 18, 2020 You didn't get the option to not accept extra forces from either side? No, you don't. Even if your choice at the end of Onslaught was to keep your alliance separate & not to join The Hand (Empire) or Task Force Nova (republic), both new factions are still forced on you, turn up at your base and more or less take it over. The only option you have is to restrict the new forces access. The whole scenario annoyed me when I chose to keep my alliance separate on all but my one super light and one super dark characters. And I have over 50 neutral ones Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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