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Bio says no to macros at Guild Summit.

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Bio says no to macros at Guild Summit.
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Rasstavad
03.06.2012 , 11:32 PM | #251
Quote: Originally Posted by Galbatorrix View Post
But that IS what happens.

For instance... this is a Death Knight Macro used by many in WOW for PVP...


/castsequence reset=target Icy Touch, Plague Strike, Blood Strike, Blood Strike, Obliterate, Frost Strike, Howling Blast

They run around in circles clicking one button to perform 7 different abilities. Now, do you think this adds an advantage over a player who doesn't use a macro like this?


Macros like this force everyone to follow along due to being at a disadvantage.
Now I know you are both bad and ignorant about WoW and what a macro does. Let me explain...

/castsequence macros are not conditional... It does those abilities one by one, regardless of what is happening to you, your partner or to the target. Conditional macros do not work in WoW and with that macro you would be laughed out of any raiding guild and would probably get you a sub 1k arena rating in the current season.

You post like you are "good" at mmo's, and you posture like you have skills - but it is very obvious that you are just one of the many who fled other games to find his home in this space based version of Hello Kitty Island.

If you want to see what Arena folks use take a jaunt over to www.arenajunkies.com - all the "leet" combat macros for all classes and all specs are listed and explained... Which also means that anybody can copy them and use them... fair and balanced.

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TempletonPeck
03.06.2012 , 11:50 PM | #252
Man, what a bunch of cry babies wanting macros and expecting the devs to add that for them so they can over simplify a game that is already pretty dang simple in MMO terms. Plus, when macros were in SWG, you know what I did? I farmed a KILLING in faction with macros while AFK and sold that for credits.... I was a rich man for my limited times in game during pre-CU, NGE and quitting soon after that. Macros are the devil, so stop being lazy and play the game like you're supposed to.

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oakamp
03.06.2012 , 11:53 PM | #253
Quote: Originally Posted by Andryah View Post
Combat macros is the worst thing to come to MMOs ever.

It's crack for lazy players IMO.
wrong,
it started from 1st MMO,
and play a game with more than 8 buttons is such a stupid thing.
English is not my first language, still working on it.

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TempletonPeck
03.06.2012 , 11:57 PM | #254
Quote: Originally Posted by oakamp View Post
wrong,
it started from 1st MMO,
and play a game with more than 8 buttons is such a stupid thing.
"You mean you have to use your hands?"

"That's like a baby's toy"

Learn to hotkey or better adjust your abilities.

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Drake_Hound
03.07.2012 , 12:13 AM | #255
Quote: Originally Posted by oakamp View Post
wrong,
it started from 1st MMO,
and play a game with more than 8 buttons is such a stupid thing.
LOL go do something usefull will you go play my little pony or something else .
That is made for babies , you know and avoid those baby toys who even have more then 8 buttons to press.

Cause it is too complicated for you .

Gee talk about a admiting lazyness ..
This is the reason that bioware doesn´t want macro .
So you want a game with 30 buttons /choices + but able to be compressed into 8 buttons.
Talk about being a hypocrite . go play MOP or other simple games .

Sorry or learn to keybind , priortise and most important adapt by playing a game.
If your memory fails you to press more then 8 buttons , I do not want to know .
How you can even use a keyboard , it has over 100 buttons .

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cipher_nemo
03.07.2012 , 09:37 AM | #256
Quote: Originally Posted by the_banana View Post
First, those sorts of out-of-game macros cannot use in-game states the way an in-game macro function could, so they're inferior in that way.
Apparently you've never heard of screen capturing and image comparison/analysis software that the gold (credit) farmers use. This is the next evolution from reading combat logs in other MMOs. PCs can easily take a screenshot and do a comparison or analysis in a matter of milliseconds. But again, these are not regular gamers, they're running scripts within sophisticated software to make a real world profit selling virtual money from these games thanks to international exchange rates. So this doesn't stop gold farmers.

In regards to in-game "states", Bioware could easily limit what is and isn't recorded with Macros. For example, Turbine limits macros in LOTRO to just the stuff you could type in-game, be it /slash commands or chat messages. Blizzard on the other hand allows more, including skills/abilities to be added to macros. The developer can control the level of flexibility when it comes to client-based macros, thus eliminating the ability to read anything from the client.

Too many people confuse "macros" with anything-goes record everything. That's not always the case.

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Kungpaoshizi
03.07.2012 , 10:16 AM | #257
I just think it's messed up they put their name etc on the razer keyboard then say, 'omg no macros!'

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cipher_nemo
03.07.2012 , 10:27 AM | #258
Quote: Originally Posted by Kungpaoshizi View Post
I just think it's messed up they put their name etc on the razer keyboard then say, 'omg no macros!'
Good point, LOL! They jointly market the Razer macro keyboards then say 'oh wait, we don't want to add macros to the client'. Perhaps they're trying to get people to buy the macro keyboards instead?

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JustCuz
03.07.2012 , 10:32 AM | #259
Quote: Originally Posted by cipher_nemo View Post
Good point, LOL! They jointly market the Razer macro keyboards then say 'oh wait, we don't want to add macros to the client'. Perhaps they're trying to get people to buy the macro keyboards instead?
I wouldn't be surprised if they had a deal with Razer to not have in game macros. I'm convinced that the "no macro" decision is an editorial one, and not a design one.

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Khryn
03.07.2012 , 10:35 AM | #260
This game isn't that hard. Why simplify it more?


I used macros in WoW though.. Did make life a lot easier. But I'm not struggling by any means without them.
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