MagnusLL Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Agreed on everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted July 21, 2021 Share Posted July 21, 2021 Not sure where you get bullying form petitioning. If you feel so strongly, I suggest you put your input here. Otherwise, why are you posting about "petitions" and not on whats been presented. Or, how to make it better? To complain without input is meaningless. And "I think petitions are bulling" isnt an input that is useful. they can be used as a way to bully people, especially when the petitioner says, just agree, sign x, then give the thread a rating of 5. A person gets the petition, gets people to put x, with no dissenting opinions, then goes to the devs demands they fix x, because the evidence shows that everyone wants it, etc. You noticed I didn't say are, I said 'Can' whereas a wish list shows both sides, and is a bit of a fairer bias. My input was that a wish list would be better, so people can discuss it. Decos are what I'm interested in, and have already posted on a number of threads, so why post the same here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwil Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 A person gets the petition, gets people to put x, with no dissenting opinions, then goes to the devs demands they fix x, because the evidence shows that everyone wants it, etc. You noticed I didn't say are, I said 'Can' whereas a wish list shows both sides, and is a bit of a fairer bias. My input was that a wish list would be better, so people can discuss it. Decos are what I'm interested in, and have already posted on a number of threads, so why post the same here? Ok, its up to the person to sign X on the petition. Sign, or dont sign. Simple enough? Sometimes people amaze me, lol. If you dont want to sign it, its up to you. You can also start your own. I petition, they make a bomber spam button If the enemy fields more than 3 bombers, you can press a button and all of their bombers explode at once. "secretly hopes the DEVS see this one" lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakkolich Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Ok, its up to the person to sign X on the petition. Sign, or dont sign. Simple enough? Sometimes people amaze me, lol. If you dont want to sign it, its up to you. You can also start your own. I petition, they make a bomber spam button If the enemy fields more than 3 bombers, you can press a button and all of their bombers explode at once. "secretly hopes the DEVS see this one" lol Flux the point is if you make a petition, and don't allow anyone to disagree, it makes it look like a united front even when it might not be. Now the way it "bullies" not really the right term, more that it distorts public opinion, is by having multiple things in the petition. Imagine a Petition that asked for both a brand new map, free requisition and ban players that have 5 or more alts that have mastered ships from queue ing. A bunch of people might agree to this petition, because they want the new map and free requisition and they don't have any alts so the last part doesn't bother them at all. Now this is of course a ridiculous ask, I'm just show casing how it could distort the results. Don't forget you're saying if 20 people signed this you wouldn't and that would be ok and it would look like everyone is in agreement to this ridiculous proposal. But in reality of course you're not, you'd be furious you have a billion alts and suddenly you'd be banned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philwil Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 what would be nice is a suggestion thread where, people put down suggestions, one at a time and had people thumbs up or thumbs down But, they dont have that. Sure, there are a lot of things in that list and might be a bit too long of a list. But, its something they might take ideas from And maybe, take a few of us to test run, and give thumbs up or down on the test servers there doesnt seem to be sure fire way of any type of input, tbh other than, something like this Besides, if they ban acounts with more than five toons... I'd be somewhat mad, but then again, new toon name opportunities...lol Yeah, im nutzoid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swtorytime Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Agreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 /snip https://www.swtor.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=349 Suggestion thread.... Each idea could have it's own, where people can debate each one individually.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HobbesToo Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttoilleekul Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 (edited) Lightsaber-Jerk, unable to post as he does not have a subscription right now, has given me his permission to post His Agreement and comments Edited July 24, 2021 by Ttoilleekul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stradlin Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 (edited) edit, wrong thread i guess Edited July 25, 2021 by Stradlin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaatXuun Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Agree, but a couple items on the list I could survive without, if they didn't happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YanYama Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 I appreciate all points Nodaro has raised, and am largely in agreement with the suggestions he has made. Thanks for this initiative! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karimthejedi Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Agreed. But please fix the bugs and maps exploits first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ttoilleekul Posted August 30, 2021 Author Share Posted August 30, 2021 Agreed. But please fix the bugs and maps exploits first I don't know why I didn't put this in here. I completely blanked on how many bugs there actually are in the game. Sound bug too, totally forgot about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted August 31, 2021 Share Posted August 31, 2021 I don't know why I didn't put this in here. I completely blanked on how many bugs there actually are in the game. Sound bug too, totally forgot about that one. That sound bug is most annoying as it sometimes locks my PC too and I have to restart. Which gives you a 15min lock out from all types of pvp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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