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Premades are hurting pvp participation

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Premades are hurting pvp participation

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Bullyabass
01.25.2022 , 06:02 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesin View Post
Make some friends, queue up, problem solves!
Pretending that premades are anything to do with "playing with friends" is the saddest fantasy. If you could queue as a group but it randomly assigned ure group members to either team would premades be happy that they were "playing with friends"? No, because they queue as a premade to get an, often insurmountable, advantage over other players.

Premades kill qs because who wants to spend a match being stun locked to death by a facerolling PT being spam healed by a merc and guarded by a skank jugg. Even if you're on the same side as the premade; cap all the nodes you want, you won't see a heal the whole game and when you call for help you might as well save your breathe.

Split the qs, leave one as it is at the moment and make the new q solo only. If you want faster pops q in both, if you're happy to wait for an even match, q in the solo q.

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abhaxus
01.25.2022 , 09:09 AM | #122
Quote: Originally Posted by Bullyabass View Post
Pretending that premades are anything to do with "playing with friends" is the saddest fantasy. If you could queue as a group but it randomly assigned ure group members to either team would premades be happy that they were "playing with friends"? No, because they queue as a premade to get an, often insurmountable, advantage over other players.
I'd be all for this as an option and I think most people would. The absolute best games are when there's a large group in discord and we all get into the same match on different teams. Maybe you should try making some friends.
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Floplag
01.25.2022 , 10:53 AM | #123
Quote: Originally Posted by Jesin View Post
Make some friends, queue up, problem solves!
See previous comment about the debate being disingenuous...
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Bullyabass
Yesterday , 07:24 AM | #124
Quote: Originally Posted by abhaxus View Post
I'd be all for this as an option and I think most people would.
Cool, then let's do that

Of course you could do it right now since you enjoy it so much. Pops are infrequent enough that if you're on voice you can sync your queuing and accepting to be pretty much certain you'll be in the same match.

Sounds like you don't do that with your army of online "friends"?. Can't imagine why.

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Wilsu_Addar
Today , 10:17 AM | #125
Premades only ruin the PvP experience because of the lack of population.

At prime time there are around 25-ish players consistently queueing for warzones. So the chances you run into that 4 man premade consistently are pretty high.

That pre-made continues to stomp players, thus making them leave the queue. This makes it even MORE likely you run into them, which repeats the process until eventually there is barely anyone queueing.

This isn't a problem in other MMOs because there's an actual population. Make no mistake - this problem WILL get worse in 7.0...as these ranked premades will have moddable gear and thus MUCH better allocation of stats and the imbalance will be worse than it ever has been.

Best of luck to those still remaining.
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