chosonman Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) Voidstar, voidstar, voidstar, that's all that seems to pop. Quit get banned from requing for 15 minutes. What to do then? Go play another game. Why spend the money on a subscription when I can't play what I want to play? Edited July 23, 2021 by chosonman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheesyEZ Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I don't know what the deal is on SF, but the VAST majority of my matches are VS or AHG, and they're usually 3 in a row. Decent amount of HB if you count all three as 1 WZ. but NC, Yav, and CW are like 1:10 compared to VS and AHG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauerkraut Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Voidstar, voidstar, voidstar, that's all that seems to pop. Quit get banned from requing for 15 minutes. What to do then? Go play another game. Why spend the money on a subscription when I can't play what I want to play? LOL!!!! and if this is not bad enough I more and more often end up in teams refuse to play obj, but they don't just don't play obj they actually try to distract me from capping or scoring in HB. Of course I can not leave without penalty but they can do whatever they want. Epic. THX BW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeneralTiphis Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Wait you guys play stuff besides arena? Amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 I have to admit, there are a LOT of voidstars, but I like them so it's ok. Better than 9/10 pops being huttball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosonman Posted July 24, 2021 Author Share Posted July 24, 2021 Honestly though, if we had a choice on which maps to que like flashpoints, I can see a reason for a 15 minute ban, but when you're forced to play whatever pops if you like it or not then that's a bit extreme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alericus Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Honestly though, if we had a choice on which maps to que like flashpoints, I can see a reason for a 15 minute ban, but when you're forced to play whatever pops if you like it or not then that's a bit extreme. Agree but Id add 2 things 1)at level 75 min gear rating 306 - i had someone enter a match a day ago..with rating 41..literally trying to lose..enough of this crap! 2)solo queue and group queue, I think this would go a long way to reducing the win trading which is getting out of control. or at least allow BW to just watch the 1 queue to control and ban as needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enticy Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Agree but Id add 2 things 1)at level 75 min gear rating 306 - i had someone enter a match a day ago..with rating 41..literally trying to lose..enough of this crap! 2)solo queue and group queue, I think this would go a long way to reducing the win trading which is getting out of control. or at least allow BW to just watch the 1 queue to control and ban as needed. 1) If that person was trying to lose, it wouldn’t matter what gear rating they had. They would’ve gone afk and thrown with 306. 2) Separate queues would kill PvP for any people who regularly group together. And if BW can’t monitor what we have now to ban wintraders, what makes you think splitting the queue will change that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauerkraut Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Wait you guys play stuff besides arena? Amazing Arenas are only fun for DPS, so yes we still play stiff beside it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Star Forge is absolutely nothing but Voidstar and Ancient Hypergates on repeat. And yes like someone said above, usually 3 in a row of each. I don't know what they did to this queue system but it is for sure not random. I did matches last weekend and in one night it was 5 Hypergates in a row, 2 void stars, 2 hypergates again, then stopped. Edited July 26, 2021 by SOULCASTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SOULCASTER Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) I have to admit, there are a LOT of voidstars, but I like them so it's ok. Better than 9/10 pops being huttball. Original Huttball is the best. You can either death match or do objectives (something for everyone). And if you don't like it, it likely will be over fast. Vanden and Quesh are absolute trash though. Please remove those 2 from the game. Edited July 26, 2021 by SOULCASTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibokagain Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 Original Huttball is the best. You can either death match or do objectives (something for everyone). And if you don't like it, it likely will be over fast. Vanden and Quesh are absolute trash though. Please remove those 2 from the game. ^agree 100% Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mycroft-Tarkin Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Same. Voidstar and AHG used to be fun modes but I've started to hate them because of how often they pop. I usually just close the game because I can't even leave and queue again. I think it has to do with how they classified the 3-obj ones as a single mode, and the 3 HBs as a single mode, so those pop way less, leaving us with Voidstar and AHG all the time. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheesyEZ Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Same. Voidstar and AHG used to be fun modes but I've started to hate them because of how often they pop. I usually just close the game because I can't even leave and queue again. I think it has to do with how they classified the 3-obj ones as a single mode, and the 3 HBs as a single mode, so those pop way less, leaving us with Voidstar and AHG all the time. Ugh. I don't understand why NC is so rare though. I understand that Yav/CW would share the same "pop," but I get NC less than almost everything (except maybe OPG). And I get every. single. HB map more frequently than NC and OPG. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waisting Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 I don't understand why NC is so rare though. I understand that Yav/CW would share the same "pop," but I get NC less than almost everything (except maybe OPG). And I get every. single. HB map more frequently than NC and OPG. I get NC all the time in lowbies (when it's not arenas, by far the most common pop...) but almost never at 75. I wish I was in OP's position and getting nothing but voidstar. That's my favorite map probably, and it's the best I think for Seasons PVPers since the objectives are very obvious - guard or click on the giant door. Even a first-timer can understand the premise pretty quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zipacnaa Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Before the maintenance all I'd get was hutball, now it seems Voidstar is on repeat. In the past two months now that I've been back in the game, I've yet to have Yavin pop. I assume it's still in the rotation, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rion_Starkiller Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 (edited) Original Huttball is the best. You can either death match or do objectives (something for everyone). And if you don't like it, it likely will be over fast. Vanden and Quesh are absolute trash though. Please remove those 2 from the game. I like all the HB maps, but yeah OG is best. Edited July 31, 2021 by Rion_Starkiller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrixxieTriss Posted August 2, 2021 Share Posted August 2, 2021 My understanding of the pop system is that Bioware have changed it into groupings, it’s why voidstar pops so much. Ie this is how I believe they are grouped based on Bioware’s communication and the system picks a group and then rolls again to pick the map. With Void Star being in a group by itself, that would elevate its pops over maps that have to share pops in their group. Group 1 - OG HB - Vandin HB - QB HB Group 2 - Void Star Group 3 - Civil War - Yavin Group 4 - Nova Coast - Hypergates Group 5 - OPG (which has had its pop time reduced) Also, when I did some pop testing last year to prove how much Hutt ball type maps were dominating the game pops, Voidstar used to pop the second most for an individual map after Vandin HB. If that wasn’t adjusted when they put the other maps into the groupings, that would also explain Void Star popping the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaithHarth Posted August 3, 2021 Share Posted August 3, 2021 Voidstar > Huttball Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crystal_Mind Posted August 5, 2021 Share Posted August 5, 2021 My understanding of the pop system is that Bioware have changed it into groupings, it’s why voidstar pops so much.... I share that "grouped map" understanding, but I'm fairly certain that Hypergate is also its own map type. I get as many hypergates as I do the three Capture Maps (Yavin Ruins, Novare, & Civil War) combined. If Hypergate and Novare were in the same group, I wouldn't expect to see the 4 AHG : 1 NC relationship I've observed to date. Instead, what I have observed is a 1 AHG : 1 (NC,CW,YR) relationship. My own pop data on map rotation is currently showing a 1.75 VS : 1.75 HB : 1 AHG : 1 Capture. The three huttball maps seem to pop evenly, as do the three capture maps. Odessen doesn't pop enough to make it into analysis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chosonman Posted August 12, 2021 Author Share Posted August 12, 2021 Last 3 days, decide to log on for 1 pvp match. Day 1 First match Voidstar - leave shut down game, play something else.... Day 2 First match Voidstar - leave shut down game, play something else.... Day 3 First match Voidstar - leave shut down game, play something else.... Thanks bioware Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurj Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Voidstar > Huttball Blasphemy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheesyEZ Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 (edited) Blasphemy. I like HB. I like it. But the game is absolutely broken in the current state/meta of the game. The best ball carriers are ops and mercs (). Most maps are dominated by DM with players actively spiking or dumping the ball off on any random person who isn't themselves. exacerbating the issue is that the carrier slow and the ball timer make it virtually impossible for anyone other than an op (who can even roll the electro plates that stop everyone else) from carrying from spawn to EZ with just the slightest amount of defense from the 1 or 2 enemy players actually trying to win. likewise, when a tank and healer or just an off-guard, carrier and EZ stealther play the objectives (a whopping 3 players) it's regularly impossible for the other 3 players on the enemy team who are trying to play to stop them (and vice versa). TL; DR: most games are not games at all: the pit and quesh obstacles are not obstacles at allvandin obstacles are fine (except for electro plates not working on lolroll) but not enough players play the map the movement abilities arms race has completely broken every HB map in one way or another. and now I cannot even leave the 3rd or 4th HB in a row. Edited August 13, 2021 by CheesyEZ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurj Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I like HB. I like it. But the game is absolutely broken in the current state/meta of the game. The best ball carriers are ops and mercs (). Most maps are dominated by DM with players actively spiking or dumping the ball off on any random person who isn't themselves. exacerbating the issue is that the carrier slow and the ball timer make it virtually impossible for anyone other than an op (who can even roll the electro plates that stop everyone else) from carrying from spawn to EZ with just the slightest amount of defense from the 1 or 2 enemy players actually trying to win. likewise, when a tank and healer or just an off-guard, carrier and EZ stealther play the objectives (a whopping 3 players) it's regularly impossible for the other 3 players on the enemy team who are trying to play to stop them (and vice versa). TL; DR: most games are not games at all: the pit and quesh obstacles are not obstacles at allvandin obstacles are fine (except for electro plates not working on lolroll) but not enough players play the map the movement abilities arms race has completely broken every HB map in one way or another. and now I cannot even leave the 3rd or 4th HB in a row. Those are good points. I just like the game mode. If you get 1 or 2 other players on your team who want to win and know how to play, it's pretty easy to make it a close game. If you're by yourself, so to speak, it's still pretty entertaining to play defense against the other team. /shrug, I'm a HB junkie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sounders_Fan Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 I tend to see a lot of void star, Hypergate, and the 3 HBs. with a moderate amount of Civil war and Yavin civil war. seems to tend towards YCW over ACW for me. I do not get many Novare coasts. and thankfully I do not get many odessans either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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