Grouchier Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I see your point and agree yes its an exploit. My next point is what the hell are the developers doing when "fixing" such things. Seriously terrible quality control. The problem was that rep items were not consumed if you quic,ly rightclicked on them, so you could spam infinite rep points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrParrcheezy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 all ours characters have been deleted ... That's not even remotely funny!!! :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchier Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 He is decribing the launchers functions and described it well. Yes reorganizing takes forever before it spends the last 1% forever on the actual download. But as the saying goes... polish a turd you get a shiny turd. I find it surprising that people would have this kind of issue. Since I got rid of Bitraider years ago, the game has always patched in a few minutes and without any error or blocking on my computer (a 6y old desktop running Windows 10 with a standard DSL connection to the www). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsillah Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 In my view MMOs are inherently complex beasts that get more complex as original devs leave and new content gets added and new devs come in with different ways of doing things. In order to fix something properly, you need to have full control of it, or at least close to it. BioWare do not have control of this game. They have to scramble each time because stuff happens unexpectedly and over time that gets more frequent. It started with their terrible choice for a half-engine so they needed to spend a lot of resources on finishing it. Then they went through a development hell not unlike their other games (Anthem being the latest and worst example to date). Then after release they lost most of their team but since the game failed they had to scramble and rebuild something to keep it alive. They've never stopped scrambling. This game hangs together with strings and gum. Every time you change something somewhere, something else falls apart. Millions and millions of lines of code, some really bad choices, changing teams, high workloads and understaffing in development and this is what you get. Every patch pulls strings. Every patch risks pulling other strings loose and it usually does. It's common here and the more common it is, the less control you know they have over this whole piece of live software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OFAWFletch Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Are you going to fix the issue where Every time I start my game and get to Character selection screen I have game download progress of 0.00% and I already have game downloaded. This has happened every day since 6.12 patching. I have to go to bitraider folder and rename it to be able to select characters and not have the game downloading progress popup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaveat Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 I think the server hamsters went from being on their union break to full strike, possibly rebelling after the loss of the 250% boost to kibble... You know, this patch snafu is reminiscent of the issues in 2017 when the powers that be stole all those squirrels to go work on Anthem... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otowi Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 While getting a lot of rep points may be a bad bug, is it one that you need to bring the servers down for? Seems like a knee jerk reaction to me, if this is the issue that is. Reminds me of a bug that hit an armor set in Galaxies after an update, where the RIS armor lost it's color dyes. It was still working like the armor usually did, it just didn't have the color dye it used to have. But hanks to whiners, SOE took the servers down again for that one non game breaking bug, leading to massive down times, and a lot of lost game time. For those that were not there, the Galaxies servers used a looong time to get back up after the update was done. Status may have said online, but it took ~3 hrs for them to come fully online. So it was scehdueled down time, and then servers actually coming online after that. The devs caught a lot of flak for that bone headed move, seeing as there was another server restart later that week, wich is when they should have added the bug fix, but nope, need to have dyes on the armor, becasue reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaveat Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Are you going to fix the issue where Every time I start my game and get to Character selection screen I have game download progress of 0.00% and I already have game downloaded. This has happened every day since 6.12 patching. I have to go to bitraider folder and rename it to be able to select characters and not have the game downloading progress popup for all that extra time and work, you could have switched to the non-streaming launcher, resulting re-download, and not had a quick launch bar since... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snordoc Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 for all that extra time and work, you could have switched to the non-streaming launcher, resulting re-download, and not had a quick launch bar since... This^^^ I'm pretty sure that most launching issues people have are related to this goddamned Bitraider. Turn it off and be happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaschRune Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 A sideline tip: Solving game issue. If you have Power ISO you can make a ISO file of the game folder X:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts Will be smart to also copy the C:\Users\Your Name\AppData\Local\SWTOR in the same ISO. When I have game problems I unzip the game and it works fine. Don't believe me..just try it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bxvx Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 UGH this is super depressing, wake up early for once can get some good gaming time in before the day starts and ohh wait our patch broke something no ETA on its return! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vonkryer Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Waiting a long time to play resub a 2 or 3 days ago and cant play today sad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeHenryFlax Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 He is decribing the launchers functions and described it well. Yes reorganizing takes forever before it spends the last 1% forever on the actual download. But as the saying goes... polish a turd you get a shiny turd. Since years the last % of ANY update takes longer than anything before that. After an update I have to close the launcher and restart it. Other wise the game thinks that I am still in update mode. And yes, the update takes a long time. But that happens to a lot of MMOs. The put a lot of data on our harddisks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lereynolds Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Love it how I work 11 hour days and come home to unannounced maintenance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 In my view MMOs are inherently complex beasts that get more complex as original devs leave and new content gets added and new devs come in with different ways of doing things. In order to fix something properly, you need to have full control of it, or at least close to it. BioWare do not have control of this game. They have to scramble each time because stuff happens unexpectedly and over time that gets more frequent. It started with their terrible choice for a half-engine so they needed to spend a lot of resources on finishing it. Then they went through a development hell not unlike their other games (Anthem being the latest and worst example to date). Then after release they lost most of their team but since the game failed they had to scramble and rebuild something to keep it alive. They've never stopped scrambling. This game hangs together with strings and gum. Every time you change something somewhere, something else falls apart. Millions and millions of lines of code, some really bad choices, changing teams, high workloads and understaffing in development and this is what you get. Every patch pulls strings. Every patch risks pulling other strings loose and it usually does. It's common here and the more common it is, the less control you know they have over this whole piece of live software. The more I heard about this game, the more this game sounds like Darth Sion, body parts hang together with bugs and errors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurgian Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Are you going to fix the issue where Every time I start my game and get to Character selection screen I have game download progress of 0.00% and I already have game downloaded. This has happened every day since 6.12 patching. I have to go to bitraider folder and rename it to be able to select characters and not have the game downloading progress popup Remove BitRaider https://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=7826333 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaveat Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) If you have Power ISO you can make a ISO file of the game folder X:\Program Files (x86)\Electronic Arts just setup a system backup with incremental checked so subsequent backups only flag changed files, that way if your game update bricks, you do not have to re-download (does not help with dev snafu's though) Will be smart to also copy the C:\Users\Your Name\AppData\Local\SWTOR in the same ISO. use %localappdata%\swtor Edited June 30, 2020 by Kaveat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tizell Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Seems a very bad day, came home from work to see shut down servers( Engeeners team, may the force be with u ! Make servers work) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismessedup Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Hi all, All the servers are once again available! More information on the Game Update 6.1.2a, here: Patch Notes. Thanks for your patience. Hi folks, We are bringing the servers offline to investigate a severe issue that was discovered. No ETA, we will let you know as soon as it becomes available. So that was a f**king lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisismessedup Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Hi folks, We are bringing the servers offline to investigate a severe issue that was discovered. No ETA, we will let you know as soon as it becomes available. We better get some sort of compensation for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lowqfah Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 As far as I'm concerned, they owe me, $1500 for a computer. After the last patch, I logged in, played for a bit, logged out, crashed to black and would never come up again. The only change was their patch, and I just logged out of the game. The computer was 18 months old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dev Post CommunityTeam Posted June 30, 2020 Author Dev Post Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) Hi folks, Our team is currently in the final stage of testing for a fix concerning the severe issue we previously discovered. If everything goes smoothly, we will be able to deploy it and bring the servers back in approximately one hour or less. We'll update this thread when we're back. We will also let you know what happened when it is all done. Edited June 30, 2020 by CommunityTeam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthThadian Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 (edited) As far as I'm concerned, they owe me, $1500 for a computer. After the last patch, I logged in, played for a bit, logged out, crashed to black and would never come up again. The only change was their patch, and I just logged out of the game. The computer was 18 months old. Sorry to crush your hopes, but its literally not possible that the game is responsible. Most likely a defective component. Edited June 30, 2020 by DarthThadian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kilovictor Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 definately not these guys...lol...thank God they're not in the birth control industry.... ty for the referral code Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrParrcheezy Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Hi folks, Our team is currently in the final stage of testing for a fix concerning the severe issue we previously discovered. If everything goes smoothly, we will be able to deploy it and bring the servers back in approximately one hour or less. We'll update this thread when we're back. We will also let you know what happened when it is all done. Servers are back up, you won't be taking them back down anytime soon right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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