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Server Merge Discussion Thread

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Server Merge Discussion Thread
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Ylliarus
08.14.2017 , 04:15 PM | #2231
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
I understand that nothing except a "megaserver" will satisfy you and and that you are, at best, grasping at straws in a vain attempt to justify your refusal to consider any other option.
And I could say exactly the same about you, so don't blame me for exhibiting behaviour you yourself are displaying just as much.
The One, True Lord Ryssius
Playing SWTOR since November 2012
Darth Malgus [EU]

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Ratajack
08.14.2017 , 04:16 PM | #2232
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
One server, one place to go to, new rp'ers will end up in the RP community even in a meagserver. It's working just fine in ESO which has a megaserver and a thriving RP community. And as if there are not trolls on Progenitor already, with a megaserver the trolls on TRE and Harbinger will be simply forced to swallow the presence of RPers and vice versa. One will ignore the other and both will be able to coexist.
The toxic community on Harbinger has demonstrated itself to be incapable of accepting, tolerating or even ignoring RP'ers for YEARS. What makes you think they will suddenly change and that RP'ers will suddenly find acceptance with a community that has persecuted them for YEARS?

I'm not an RP'er, but unlike some, I do recognize and understand their concerns.

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NuSeC
08.14.2017 , 04:20 PM | #2233
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
And nothing is stopping other guilds or players who want higher population servers from doing the same to move to a higher population server. They are CHOOSING to stay where they over being on a more populated server.

I wonder why that is if merges and transfers are so wonderful.
Sure there is - it is a huge cost and potentially permanent loss of some things that are just not available in the game anymore. I am the GM of a large guild 900+ toons both factions and fully unlocked FS, GB and HQ on both. Server merges need to happen as soon as they get all the migration issues resolved. This is an MMO... not the "lets see if more than 5 people are on the fleet today" game.

There has been plenty of time for people on both sides to voice their concerns (both pros and cons)... it is time for them to take action or at least come out and say wth they are planning on doing. Keeping people in the dark as we watch the populations dwindle is ridicules, demoralizing and callus.
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bdatt
08.14.2017 , 04:20 PM | #2234
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
Now, imagine there is a megaserver, 2 USA
I don't know how megaservers work (is it literally one location, or separate physical locations that just appear to the user to be a single server?) but why 2? Isn't the ping across the US like 100 ms? Keep it west/mid-west so APAC isn't as screwed as going to east coast and get everyone together. Keeping any split doesn't address the issue.

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Ylliarus
08.14.2017 , 04:22 PM | #2235
Quote: Originally Posted by PiiTarr View Post
Ignore does not work. One method of trolling that has been documented on these forums is using the largest mount the troll has available to them and parking it right in the middle of a group of RPers. Emotes are also used to troll and are still visible even when the troll has been ignored. Both of these things have been done to me personally, so I can attest to the claims made by others that these forms of trolling do exist and are not stopped simply by "ignoring."
As someone who has rp'ed themselves for 5 years in this game another 4 prior to that on star wars themed forums I know how trollers work. However, I have found myself that ignoring worked best always, because eventually they'll grow bored if not acknowledged and move on to something else. But if you acknowledge them, tell them to go away, show and display to fear them then yes they will be fed and persist.

Also, sorry to say it but it sounds somewhat funny... the entire RP community shuddering and fearing a player will stand in their midst with their biggest mount. It's a bit comical and I don't mean it in a harmful way of course but the image is somewhat funny. But it's exactly what fuels and feeds the trolls, they know you fear them so they do their trolling because they know they have the power to influence you with fear.
The One, True Lord Ryssius
Playing SWTOR since November 2012
Darth Malgus [EU]

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Ylliarus
08.14.2017 , 04:24 PM | #2236
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The toxic community on Harbinger has demonstrated itself to be incapable of accepting, tolerating or even ignoring RP'ers for YEARS. What makes you think they will suddenly change and that RP'ers will suddenly find acceptance with a community that has persecuted them for YEARS?

I'm not an RP'er, but unlike some, I do recognize and understand their concerns.
But how conveniently you ignore the things I said about rp'ers and their community being toxic and a cesspit as well... you would be thinking differently if you had seen what I had seen and experienced on the swtor-rp forums...
The One, True Lord Ryssius
Playing SWTOR since November 2012
Darth Malgus [EU]

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NuSeC
08.14.2017 , 04:26 PM | #2237
Quote: Originally Posted by Ratajack View Post
The toxic community on Harbinger has demonstrated itself to be incapable of accepting, tolerating or even ignoring RP'ers for YEARS. What makes you think they will suddenly change and that RP'ers will suddenly find acceptance with a community that has persecuted them for YEARS?

I'm not an RP'er, but unlike some, I do recognize and understand their concerns.
As do I... a possible solution:

Their own instance like PVP/PVE, their own chat channel and the ignore option works with the exception that it needs to ignore by legacy and not just the name.
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Ylliarus
08.14.2017 , 04:28 PM | #2238
Quote: Originally Posted by NuSeC View Post
As do I... a possible solution:

Their own instance like PVP/PVE, their own chat channel and the ignore option works with the exception that it needs to ignore by legacy and not just the name.
A perfect and reasonable solution that would work, but no the naysayers have to persist because that solution doesn't include their own server. To anything that doesn't include that they'll say "it won't work" without even having considered it or thought "let's try it out!".
The One, True Lord Ryssius
Playing SWTOR since November 2012
Darth Malgus [EU]

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fushnchips
08.14.2017 , 04:29 PM | #2239
Well I make videos and I done the worst US ones and just today done a tour of some of the worst EU servers showing the game is not healthy on certain server types and Megaservers are what this game needs if you think other wise you really need to think about the facts of SWTOR and it's servers.
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Ratajack
08.14.2017 , 04:29 PM | #2240
Quote: Originally Posted by Ylliarus View Post
But how conveniently you ignore the things I said about rp'ers and their community being toxic and a cesspit as well... you would be thinking differently if you had seen what I had seen and experienced on the swtor-rp forums...
I find it ironic that you claim to be an RP'er yourself , but when people started to blow holes in your platitudes that everything would be fine and dandy and that RP'ers would find a welcome home on a "megaserver", you decry RP'ers as a toxic cesspit.