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Do you support a Mac OS X client in Star Wars the Old Republic?

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Do you support a Mac OS X client in Star Wars the Old Republic?

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kevlarto
03.08.2012 , 11:02 PM | #371
I am PC guy, but if there is enough apple players to justify the cost of a mac client, sure why not let everyone on the train..
Do not dwell in the past, do not not dream of the future, concentrate the mind on the present moment.

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Arzhanin
03.08.2012 , 11:36 PM | #372
Hey folks,

We did a bit of cleanup in this thread.

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Lethality
03.09.2012 , 08:01 AM | #373
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfeisberg View Post
We need a orange to orange comparison. Are they going to surpass HP in Computer sales, not tablet type devices?

Cause that article you showed, put the caveat of "If you count IPad as a computer" and at the very end the writer states take the projection with a grain of salt.
Those words are coming from the CEO of HP, not some internet forum... it doesn't get more credible than that.

To her - and the shareholders - tablets ARE computers and are taking a big chunk out of traditional desktop sales. Tablets are what mainstream computers of the near future look like. many people will not "need" computers anymore... the tablet serves their purposes perfectly fine.

Back to that PC gaming is now a niche thing... it's happening.

PC sales hit a wall in 'post-PC' world
Interested in a Mac version of TOR? Show your support here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=683591

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Lasani
03.09.2012 , 08:56 AM | #374
my iMac is getting 30FPS max and my buddies normal PC which is worth less than my iMac (lower spec) getting 120~ fps on high settings

I would like to get a client and official support or I will switch back to WOW

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-Kraxis-
03.09.2012 , 09:31 AM | #375
Do not add support for Mac, it's a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere... Maybe in a couple years after all the IMPORTANT technical glitches have been worked out...

Macs are not for gaming. If you didn't realize that when you bought it, you do now.

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Lethality
03.09.2012 , 10:04 AM | #376
Quote: Originally Posted by -Kraxis- View Post
Do not add support for Mac, it's a waste of money that could be better spent elsewhere... Maybe in a couple years after all the IMPORTANT technical glitches have been worked out...

Macs are not for gaming. If you didn't realize that when you bought it, you do now.
LOL. My Mac plays every game I want to play - natively.

Besides only a complete fool would purchase their computer based on game availability. LOL.
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Rami__
03.09.2012 , 10:22 AM | #377
I think this isn't a discussion of the OS. There will be people who don't want to make the effort of bootcamp and who only use macs. I use an MBP at work and at home, I also use Redhat and Slackware heaps, and I have 2 windows machines whose primary purpose is gaming.

So, undiluted, the facts are:

- The game runs fine on bootcamp (compatibility wise, your specs define your actual experience regardless of OS). Bootcamp is NOT an emulated or virtualised environment. The OS runs native on the hardware, windows and Mac OS alike.
- Creating a Mac client will take development and budget, both of which will need to be taken from somewhere else (impossible to avoid, work is never done for free or instant).
- GPU manufacturers are not proactive in providing MacOS drivers (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon#Macintosh and try finding Mac drivers on their sites). Mostly, Apple brings out drivers but support is far less than for Windows

The first is a simple fact, bootcamp is nice for running Linux or windows on any Intel based Mac.

The second and third are also known fact, and will be ongoing issues should they still decide to create such a client. Money and time will go to supporting something which does nothing but provide an easier alternative (not an only alternative) to what STILL is a small section of the player base (how else are you here posting if you're not already playing?). Drivers are not likely to see official and broad support for Mac from their manufacturers, not for gaming at least.

Tablets are not really a part of this discussion, tablets feature onboard graphics processors, they won't be switching to cards any time soon.

Sure, I'd like to be able to play swtor on my MBP, which is a nice new one with good GPU. But I have bootcamp and Windows isn't that hard to get. The *ONLY* counter point is that Windows obviously costs money, and you have to do some extra effort to play the game.

- Effort: if you like the game, you'll make the effort to go into bootcamp. if you don't, oh well it was nice playing with you whilst it lasted
- Getting Windows: if you don't have Windows already you will need to pay, there are however MANY ways to get it for free or a lot cheaper (student, MSDN, etc).

Now personally, I suppose I can see why the second reason bothers people. Though how you have been mainstream gaming if you are 100% Mac Only I have no idea, you're quite restricted in your market. Then again, if you shell out the extra for an MBP or so, you can afford a Windows license. Again, if you feel you can't for the principle of it, it was nice playing with you.
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Lethality
03.09.2012 , 10:28 AM | #378
Quote: Originally Posted by Rami__ View Post
I think this isn't a discussion of the OS. There will be people who don't want to make the effort of bootcamp and who only use macs. I use an MBP at work and at home, I also use Redhat and Slackware heaps, and I have 2 windows machines whose primary purpose is gaming.

So, undiluted, the facts are:

- The game runs fine on bootcamp (compatibility wise, your specs define your actual experience regardless of OS). Bootcamp is NOT an emulated or virtualised environment. The OS runs native on the hardware, windows and Mac OS alike.
- Creating a Mac client will take development and budget, both of which will need to be taken from somewhere else (impossible to avoid, work is never done for free or instant).
- GPU manufacturers are not proactive in providing MacOS drivers (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radeon#Macintosh and try finding Mac drivers on their sites). Mostly, Apple brings out drivers but support is far less than for Windows

The first is a simple fact, bootcamp is nice for running Linux or windows on any Intel based Mac.

The second and third are also known fact, and will be ongoing issues should they still decide to create such a client. Money and time will go to supporting something which does nothing but provide an easier alternative (not an only alternative) to what STILL is a small section of the player base (how else are you here posting if you're not already playing?). Drivers are not likely to see official and broad support for Mac from their manufacturers, not for gaming at least.

Tablets are not really a part of this discussion, tablets feature onboard graphics processors, they won't be switching to cards any time soon.

Sure, I'd like to be able to play swtor on my MBP, which is a nice new one with good GPU. But I have bootcamp and Windows isn't that hard to get. The *ONLY* counter point is that Windows obviously costs money, and you have to do some extra effort to play the game.

- Effort: if you like the game, you'll make the effort to go into bootcamp. if you don't, oh well it was nice playing with you whilst it lasted
- Getting Windows: if you don't have Windows already you will need to pay, there are however MANY ways to get it for free or a lot cheaper (student, MSDN, etc).

Now personally, I suppose I can see why the second reason bothers people. Though how you have been mainstream gaming if you are 100% Mac Only I have no idea, you're quite restricted in your market. Then again, if you shell out the extra for an MBP or so, you can afford a Windows license. Again, if you feel you can't for the principle of it, it was nice playing with you.
I'm not a gamer, but I enjoy playing games.

Releasing a Mac OS X native client is the single largest infusion of subscribers and revenue they could generate, barring a full retail expansion. The game is already created - it doesn't take another 100% effort to create it for the Mac. You're looking at 10-15% overall effort to bring it to market comparatively. If that.

Slam-dunk ROI.
Interested in a Mac version of TOR? Show your support here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=683591

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Neoforcer
03.09.2012 , 10:35 AM | #379
my answer would be no let not waste dev time on porting the game to a different OS. When there time can be spent else were like fixing bugs and making new content. Bootcomp works fine

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Lethality
03.09.2012 , 10:37 AM | #380
Quote: Originally Posted by Neoforcer View Post
my answer would be no let not waste dev time on porting the game to a different OS. When there time can be spent else were like fixing bugs and making new content. Bootcomp works fine
Never mind.
Interested in a Mac version of TOR? Show your support here: http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?t=683591