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Nerf Assassin Deception

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ecstazypop
06.12.2022 , 01:23 AM | #61
Quote: Originally Posted by ZUHFB View Post
Lightning is absolutely fine vs. sins, you just have to punish that their root break has 20s CD. They are very weak to slows and roots due to their T-Rex arms.
Saying that there is no counterplay is denial, yes you get stun locked - but every other classes also destroy you when you get stun locked in the opener, that's not just a sin thing. Yes sin brings a lot of that CC themselves, but you could always phasewalk. If you didn't place (e.g. orbital station) after dropping down you could've always unclicked it once you are save on top of the stairs, if you don't and you place it there and you get stun locked on your phasewalk... that is your mistake.

Yeah, carnage and snipers suck - but how can you complain about other classes being too good when you know that yours is just bad? Why even play a bad class at all? You know it's bad and that gives you a shield for being the same. Just play Fury, or even better - just play deception. "uh bUt I'm NoT a MetA aBuSeR" - WHY NOT? It's ranked you can use every advantage!

Again, just reroll to a viable class and problem is solved, lightning is a viable class. It's just not broken like in 6.X.
Wow, u're such a pro player, bro How I couldn't see it before??
U're so right, give the sins back phase walk and buff sin's dps by 500% pls !!! Also give 15 seconds shroud and everyone's happy! They're so underpowered. Save this poor class from the extinction of swtor. People can't play it anymore cos is so weak.............

Since all you do is to comment on this topic may I ask if you have a real life?
Do you need a hug?
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ZUHFB
06.12.2022 , 05:07 AM | #62
Quote: Originally Posted by ecstazypop View Post
Wow, u're such a pro player, bro How I couldn't see it before??
U're so right, give the sins back phase walk and buff sin's dps by 500% pls !!! Also give 15 seconds shroud and everyone's happy! They're so underpowered. Save this poor class from the extinction of swtor. People can't play it anymore cos is so weak.............

Since all you do is to comment on this topic may I ask if you have a real life?
Do you need a hug?
I didn't say to buff sins, I told you they aren't as broken as you make them look. Clearly they are a top tier class right now, but there is still counterplay.

I feel more insulted by the insults not even being funny, they are very basic and boring. If you insult me at least make it funny, try a bit harder. Either way it just shows you ran out of point to be made.
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cflems
06.13.2022 , 02:32 AM | #63
Quote: Originally Posted by ZUHFB View Post
Lightning is absolutely fine vs. sins, you just have to punish that their root break has 20s CD. They are very weak to slows and roots due to their T-Rex arms.
Saying that there is no counterplay is denial, yes you get stun locked - but every other classes also destroy you when you get stun locked in the opener, that's not just a sin thing. Yes sin brings a lot of that CC themselves, but you could always phasewalk. If you didn't place (e.g. orbital station) after dropping down you could've always unclicked it once you are save on top of the stairs, if you don't and you place it there and you get stun locked on your phasewalk... that is your mistake.

Yeah, carnage and snipers suck - but how can you complain about other classes being too good when you know that yours is just bad? Why even play a bad class at all? You know it's bad and that gives you a shield for being the same. Just play Fury, or even better - just play deception. "uh bUt I'm NoT a MetA aBuSeR" - WHY NOT? It's ranked you can use every advantage!

Again, just reroll to a viable class and problem is solved, lightning is a viable class. It's just not broken like in 6.X.
I mean lightning still sucks massively against sins, the matchup is like 85% to the sin, but you're right it's not 100% like the other two. And sure "viable", as in, playing lightning at 100% potential will net you the results of a fury mara playing at 50% potential, but you can still win some games. It's good for memes or for practicing kiting under harder circumstances for when u go back to madness, but no one will play this spec for ELO. Anyone on a meta spec who feels like it can abuse your complete absence of a recovery mechanism (or stealth) to force you to just not play the game for a minute and a half, and then die, giving them a h2f. Same problem sniper has. 6.X was broken, but it could stand to have *one* of the 5 or 6 tools they took away back (those being short phase+leap immunity, bubble heal, stun DR, bubble stun/surging speed--one can be taken but not both as before, short stun+reduce target dmg, accuracy debuff, speed boost on heal, and a free spot in case I forgot anything).

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Skillztbh
06.13.2022 , 08:08 PM | #64
Pretty solid statement, Ling is indeed very bad against sin - talking about a sr setting here; Ling can handle itself fine in duels. Lack of sustain heal means they cannot recover from the opener if one or two just keep tunneling them. Wouldn't say it's a meme tho, depending on q ling might be the better choice from time to time, although madness is better overall.
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Xerekfell
06.20.2022 , 03:43 PM | #65
Quote: Originally Posted by ecstazypop View Post
Dear developers,

Sin deception is literally the one, if not the most op spec class in the game now. In SR is unmatched. Some huge dr to burst, deflection, shroud, even though is only 3 seconds, 2 cloaks, and taunt, low slash, stun.
There is literally nothing that can kill a good dec sin, only if all the team is dead and he needs to stuck, maybe? Can kill you even if he has all cloaks 1v3 easy. Before they had decent damage with those all tools etc. was fairly amazing to have in your team. Now is just cancer, the team with more god sins, wins absolutely, not even a question about it. LOL. What is this joke?
How can you give so much dps in the opener to that class? HOW??? Or take some dcd. There is literally nothing that I can do on any class against a dec sin in sr.

PLEASE NERF DECEPTION SIN ! FFS. This is so disgusting.
Deception is not even close to being broken bud. The utility Deception possesses has been designed for 4 dps solo ranked games. The damage is no where near where it was previously. You strike me as the kind of person who plays one class and nothing else. I'm willing to bet 100 dollars you play marauder and nothing else. If you really want something to be nerfed it would be fury marauder and rage jugg( enrage utility)