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Please let me opt out of 4v4

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DarkTergon
06.25.2021 , 04:06 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by sauerkraut View Post
Dude you don't have chances in an Arena if 2 of your team mates leave.
nope, you just walk out and stand there while they kill you
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CheesyEZ
06.25.2021 , 04:55 PM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by sauerkraut View Post
Dude you don't have chances in an Arena if 2 of your team mates leave.
1. that's not true at all at 75, and was never true even when lowbies were more balanced
2. and this is really important, I didn't say two people on my team. there are 8 players required to pop the queue. dig?

edit: it's exceedingly easy to carry in arenas as opposed to 8v8.

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Rion_Starkiller
06.25.2021 , 06:40 PM | #23
Please let me opt IN to 4v4 arena over number farming baboons in warzones.
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8 pugs and a grophet can i borrow a stim?
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TrixxieTriss
06.26.2021 , 01:27 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Rion_Starkiller View Post
Please let me opt IN to 4v4 arena over number farming baboons in warzones.
Isn’t that already called ranked?
Do you want to be a better objective pvper?
Click here for a “How to PvP Guide”

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TrixxieTriss
06.26.2021 , 01:33 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by CheesyEZ View Post

edit: it's exceedingly easy to carry in arenas as opposed to 8v8.
Yeah, it is easier to carry in arena vs 8s as long as the other team is as bad as the rest of yours. You don’t have to worry about objectives or covering a huge map. So even if your guys all die, it’s usually a 1v2 at that point, which is possible to carry (as long as you aren’t sub 30 and they aren’t 60+)
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sauerkraut
06.26.2021 , 03:57 AM | #26
Quote: Originally Posted by CheesyEZ View Post
1. that's not true at all at 75, and was never true even when lowbies were more balanced
2. and this is really important, I didn't say two people on my team. there are 8 players required to pop the queue. dig?

edit: it's exceedingly easy to carry in arenas as opposed to 8v8.
So than why don't you sign up for ranked? Arenas only, 24/7. What's the problem?

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Rion_Starkiller
06.26.2021 , 08:58 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by TrixxieTriss View Post
Isn’t that already called ranked?
You can goof around in unranked without pissing off your team. Also, the pops are considerably faster.
Beruhl (ง︡'-'︠)ง ~ ADAL-IstyanFiend
8 pugs and a grophet can i borrow a stim?
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I believe he's quoting a frequent contributor to these forums. His name is Strawman.
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Thanks Rion Starbrah.

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sauerkraut
06.26.2021 , 01:00 PM | #28
Quote: Originally Posted by Rion_Starkiller View Post
You can goof around in unranked without pissing off your team. Also, the pops are considerably faster.
You can goof around in both, it's just a game after all. It just shows that you have no respect for your team mates. Do you think peeps sign up for unranked to lose or to watch you goofing around?

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CheesyEZ
06.26.2021 , 01:50 PM | #29
Quote: Originally Posted by sauerkraut View Post
So than why don't you sign up for ranked? Arenas only, 24/7. What's the problem?
I'm trying really hard not to insult you, because that question belies an incredible amount of ignorance and insult. but I'll play nice and just explain some things to you...

rated pvp, whether it's solos or group, is largely composed of quality players who know their classes and the abilities/rotations of every other class, and they know all the nooks and crannies of the maps to prevent stealthers/maras from hiding and healing, etc.

one good dps can carry or compensate for a bot (bad player) in a solo rated match, and he can sometimes cover for two mediocre players.

but you see, rated competition is (generally) much higher than reg arenas and lowbie arenas.

in a reg arena, the stratification in player skill is much higher. the likelihood of bad and mediocre players being on both teams is well over 5x more likely than solo rated. therefore, it's entirely more likely that one good player can carry more than one bot on his team.

it's even easier to carry in lowbie pvp. as a player in his 70s (as many toons are b/c entire stables were sitting at 70 when players left the game in 5.x), he not only has the massive advantage of access to more utilities than sub 50s players, but he has valuable set bonus gear from Ossus (often fully optimized with bis mods and augs). I'm an average player, slightly above average at best, and I regularly carry short-handed arenas in lowbie, and can easily overcome multiple bots on my team because the player skill and charcter level abilities are drastically different in lowbies.

none of that qualifies me to run around in rated or makes me a god in PvP. the simple fact of the matter is that there are a metric **** ton of players in lowbies and regs who have very little skill or knowledge about their own class, the classes of other players, or the maps/game modes that they are playing. that make it exceedingly easy for someone, even of my middling skill, to carry.

I enjoy arenas. I enjoy (most) WZs. the population of players in this game is too small for either of them to thrive independently. there are already too many players who ignore objectives in WZs (either out of ignorance or not caring). and arenas already only pop when there aren't enough players to create a WZ match. so literally no WZs-only player is missing out on a WZ when an arena pops. but separating the queues drastically reduces the frequency of either. also, an arenas-only queue will turn into a wasteland like group ranked because 4m groups will queue for it and drive everyone away as often happens in lowbie when the population is low.

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CheesyEZ
06.26.2021 , 03:56 PM | #30
coming from the guy who can't carry reg and lowbie arenas. cute.