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The weird people you meet in Group Finder.


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Pencariduit
01.04.2022 , 12:52 AM | #10211
Not a bad weird but a good weird. Playing as a 75 slinger and got a pop on KDY with bunch of lowbies: 34 Sent, 23 Shadow, 47 Guardian. Thinking that this will going so slow and full of death, I hesitantly accept the q. But to my surprise, not only no one click the ship building area (except me), we also don't have death at any point and kill the Sith boss in one try lol.

That was something and made me change my mind about KDY.

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BobFredJohn
01.09.2022 , 05:15 AM | #10212
Interesting run on MM hammer station recently with my jugg tank, with a sorc healer, mara and sniper.

As mentioned in my previous post, I am not too fond of the people who do unnecessary skips (where the skip takes longer than the pull) or unnecessary LOS.

As such, when we get to the large pull that everybody LOS's for no good reason, I just tank it like I used to in the good old days. After a few seconds the group who is stood around the corner seems to notice I am not brining the enemies to them.
healer: "move"
me: "no ty"

The group them comes out from around the corner and we finish the pull.

carry on through the mission, eventually getting to the other pull that is often LOS'ed, the group just before the lift that can be sliced. I pull, the sorc and sniper join in, the mara is still around the corner and doesn't join in, we kill the pull.
mara: "tank is new"
me: "nope"
sniper: "I think hes oldschool"
me: "yep"
mara: "no, he doesn't know how to do this mission"
me: "*sniper name* is correct, joined in 2.0"
mara: "I been playing since beta"
healer: "I prefer it this way, plus its nostalgic"
sniper: "plus its nice to have a decent tank in a PUG for once"
me: "ty"

we do second boss, get to the two turrets at the bridge. It is red by the time we get there, so I decide we will just kill them while we wait. I pull, sniper and sorc join in, mara does nothing. Bridge comes back, mara crosses it and starts fighting the elite at the other end.

in the time it takes us to kill both turrets and catch up to the mara he has the elite down to half health, so not much of a time save by skipping them. If he had joined in attacking the turrets it would have been even faster.

get to final boss, sniper gets knocked off by boss knock-back, so its just me, healer and mara. The mara completely ignores adds, leaving me and the healer to kill them. We kill and loot.
me: "dps, playing since beta, doesn't kill adds"
mara: "I prefer to just kill the boss"
healer: "I think the tank prefers to do it properly"
sniper: "lol"
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JediQuaker
01.09.2022 , 08:17 AM | #10213
Quote: Originally Posted by BobFredJohn View Post
Interesting run on MM hammer station recently with my jugg tank, with a sorc healer, mara and sniper.

As mentioned in my previous post, I am not too fond of the people who do unnecessary skips (where the skip takes longer than the pull) or unnecessary LOS.
Yes, many people seem to think there is only one 'proper' way to do a flashpoint.
I had a sort of the opposite affect a few days ago. In a VM HS group with a DPS who was really probably a tank. This guy wanted to LOS everything. But after standing around a corner a few times, by himself, while the rest of us killed things, he eventually gave up trying LOS.
🙂
Now you've got me wanting to do HS 'old school' next time. 😏
Hold water, a sieve may not, but hold another sieve, it will - Yoda..

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HypSpec
01.11.2022 , 12:21 PM | #10214
Weird, not sure, but some people's need to dictate and control the actions from the group gets ridiculous sometimes.

Vet FP with a stealther and some lowbies. I mark the first cc skip target and stealther says in chat "don't mark ****". I let him know I do it to help prevent some randos from leroying in there and he replies that was guilds are for.

Why would you rip someone for proactively communicating awareness to benefit new players or ones not familiar with the FP? Don't get why someone would discourage it when it should be a non-event for players who know the run...

It's a group activity and kills me how so many think they should boss around the other 75% of the group right from the start.

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Rolodome
01.13.2022 , 05:11 AM | #10215
Quote: Originally Posted by BobFredJohn View Post
Interesting run on MM hammer station recently with my jugg tank, with a sorc healer, mara and sniper.

As mentioned in my previous post, I am not too fond of the people who do unnecessary skips (where the skip takes longer than the pull) or unnecessary LOS.
Yeah, I'm all for skipping unnecessary trash and bonus missions to save time, but some people get so obsessive about skipping, they make the FP harder. And of course, because these people want to move at mach speed, they have no interest in explaining these skips to people, they just assume everyone will follow and know to do things exactly as they do with no deviation.

One of the ones that is silly to me is that skip in assault on tython with the jump you have to get just right. It's such a terrible skip because if even one party member struggles with the jump, you can waste god knows how much time trying to deal with that.

I think in general, if the group has a tank or a healer and decent DPS, there's little reason to skip trash that's directly in the way; it should melt. Ironically, it's the groups that struggle in combat that usually also struggle with pulling off the harder trash skips, when they are the ones that more need it.
I'm not actually here, I'm just a force ghost of a droid of a player ranting and raving in an ancient temple.

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Carbon_Dark
01.31.2022 , 11:16 AM | #10216
Joined a master mode flashpoint as a jug DPS and was criticized for pulling aggro from the tank despite the fact that I was using my threat drop basically on CD. Was told to stop using the threat drop because they thought it was a taunt and to stop using my smash ability because it was a "high aggro ability". Got tired of the complaining so I left the group which is something I almost never do.

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Hrafnhildur
02.01.2022 , 02:49 AM | #10217
TfB HM - i was the only PuG ( the rest were from the same guild). They asked me to join vc on Discord, ok i joined. They asked for a screenshot of my BH star parse, i sent them one, 21 k damage on 8 HM dummy.
We started the op, killed the first boss (the worm) without problem, killed the Dread Guards.
At Operator IX, we wiped 8 times, apparently no one knew a REAL tank is required, we only had 2 DwT.
We were all in star parse, and even if i had the second biggest damage, after a jugg, they decided is my fault for the failure, because "low dps"
I decided to leave group, it was a bit too much for me.

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Rolodome
02.01.2022 , 06:03 AM | #10218
Quote: Originally Posted by Hrafnhildur View Post
TfB HM - i was the only PuG ( the rest were from the same guild). They asked me to join vc on Discord, ok i joined. They asked for a screenshot of my BH star parse, i sent them one, 21 k damage on 8 HM dummy.
We started the op, killed the first boss (the worm) without problem, killed the Dread Guards.
At Operator IX, we wiped 8 times, apparently no one knew a REAL tank is required, we only had 2 DwT.
We were all in star parse, and even if i had the second biggest damage, after a jugg, they decided is my fault for the failure, because "low dps"
I decided to leave group, it was a bit too much for me.
That's messed up, blaming it on the pug. Sorry you had to deal with that.
I'm not actually here, I'm just a force ghost of a droid of a player ranting and raving in an ancient temple.

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JediQuaker
02.11.2022 , 08:32 AM | #10219
An 'interesting' SoV MM run.
Just after the first boss, the healer DC'd and after a bit of a wait, we decided to carry on killing trash until the healer reconnected.
We ended up doing everything, including the bonus boss, up until the final boss, without a healer (and without dying)!
At the last boss we finally gave up and kicked the healer. I took out Z0-0M and we finished the FP with no problem. 🤔
Fun and interesting. 🙂
Hold water, a sieve may not, but hold another sieve, it will - Yoda..

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Rolodome
02.15.2022 , 03:27 AM | #10220
Quote: Originally Posted by HypSpec View Post
Another good example of this that drives me nuts...Cademimu and a couple of the jump shortcuts. It is not very likely on a vet pug you are going to get all four to be able to make just one of the jumps, let alone both - and when they don't, we wait for run back. It is almost always easier to wreck the mobs or use pushes to clear them more quickly.
I've been doing more vet FPs lately and this stuff kills me. Shortcuts that aren't really shortcuts because it has to be flawlessly executed by every member of the group and the chances are high at least one person won't. Not to mention clueless newer players who have no idea what's going on with all the elaborate shortcuts being used.

I had an Athiss run recently where (as is often the case) one person was struggling to make that ridiculous jump people insist on doing with the weird angle. They kept failing it over and over, finally they tried to run through (must have been a newbie) and pulled both trash groups. Somehow we managed to kill the 1st one while getting out of combat with the 2nd (I did do a stealth out at some point in the fight, that might have been it, RIP stealthing out of combat in FPs INC). So then they respawn and we have to wait for them to run back. They proceed to fail at the jump a bunch more. Finally, I just pulled the 2nd trash group. Died in the process cause I rushed it and the others had to get there, but we still took it out. I was concerned if the other person took much longer, people were going to get annoyed and kick them and they don't deserve that over such a ridiculous jump expectation. Plus I wanted to get going. We prob wasted a good 5+ minutes just because of people mindlessly insisting on that jump. It's like this unwritten rule that people go for it, even though so often there's someone who struggles with it. Defies reason.

I have to say though, on the flip side of it, some people just won't speak up for themselves. I think of that trash avoidance routine in Directive 7 with the tents and using a mount. Some people will ignore the rest of the group doing it (keep in mind, I try to give people time to catch up so they can see what I'm doing even if others are running ahead), hang back in seeming confusion, say nothing, and then as if backed into a corner of thinking they have to overcome the problem with sheer force of will, attempt to run through the trash. It's almost funny. I never see someone in those situations go "hang on, idk how to get through, little help?" or anything like that. It's always wordless inaction, followed by derping into mobs.

I can imagine for some it might be intimidating to ask when they see people rushing through so confidently, but personally, I'd rather someone stop a moment to ask what to do or ask for us to pull the trash instead than derp into a group of trash mobs. Often, those sort of pulls are very messy and can wipe a group if bad enough because those people will have a tendency to somehow aggro every mob in the near vicinity lmao. The thing that amazes me most across so many FPs is how many people neglect to use the Chat function when a little communication would make a big difference. I had a Czerka Core Meltdown recently where it was pretty obvious after a totally unnecessary wipe that some people didn't know the sandstorm fight, so I asked in chat and one person said they'd never done it. I explained the fights throughout the FP after that, but it's just like... they could have said so from the start. T_T
I'm not actually here, I'm just a force ghost of a droid of a player ranting and raving in an ancient temple.