DrowNoble Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 The Bioware choice I was expecting didn't happen here. What I thought would happen is yes, if I let Jaxo die the result is what I expected. What I thought would happen if I let her live didn't. I thought that saving her would infuriate Dorne, especially if a male trooper cheated on her with Jaxo, and she'd leave Havoc Squad. Then Jaxo would replace her as the squad healer, just as a medium armor cunning attribute healer. That would of been perfect as a choice/consequence scenario. Instead you get ... am email from Jaxo saying she has issues now and Dorne promptly forgets your action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tenacity Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a darkside choice to rescue jaxo because you're sacraficing several hundred other people in order to do so, and you're doing it for personal reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 It's a darkside choice to rescue jaxo because you're sacraficing several hundred other people in order to do so, and you're doing it for personal reasons. Not to mention that if I recall this one correctly, you are disobeying direct orders from Garza if you don't save the others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_riches Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 I hated this choice, its the only time ever I have logged out and deliberated the decision until next time I logged in (some soldier I would be). As it turns out I did killed Jaxo and saved 300 soldiers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RameiArashi Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Apparently light side choice costs you the bonus. The last piece of data seems to be behind a locked door you cant open if you go light side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennekElsin Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Might I just add how BS this is? You SPACE HER. How in the world is that good? Her body implodes and its a lot of gruesome little details coming out of every opening in her body. Its a horrific fate. If they were to give us this chance of killing her, well I just feel like I tortured her now, and I hate it. I'm sorry but this ruined my opinion of the trooper campaign completely. If you don't know understand how, then that's too bad for you. I dont like torturing people even if its for an objective. Whoever decided on this being in the game can rot, for all I care. I dont like yelping at people I don't know or who made a game I like playing, but this was too gruesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Might I just add how BS this is? You SPACE HER. How in the world is that good? Her body implodes and its a lot of gruesome little details coming out of every opening in her body. Its a horrific fate. If they were to give us this chance of killing her, well I just feel like I tortured her now, and I hate it. I'm sorry but this ruined my opinion of the trooper campaign completely. If you don't know understand how, then that's too bad for you. I dont like torturing people even if its for an objective. Whoever decided on this being in the game can rot, for all I care. I dont like yelping at people I don't know or who made a game I like playing, but this was too gruesome. It's the LS choice because the alternative is doing it to 300 people. And a vacuum-exposed person doesn't explode - there's enough tension and tensile strength in the skin and blood vessels to keep the skin from bursting. Exposed mucous membranes (surface of mouth, eyes, nostrils, lungs) will dry out (boil!) very quickly, and intestinal gases may cause problems, but explosion? No. (The most likely injury in brief exposures is what's called barotrauma, where the air in the lungs tries to expand, and tears the relatively soft tissue inside the lungs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennekElsin Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 Yes, and here's the other point: You have a whole TEAM. Havoc Squad, remember? You and one other person go in only. Have two other people to move in and extract her, and you still have two additional members to stay and protect the ship or wherever you want them. Whoever wrote that didn't do a good job, it was a contrived way of trying to come up with a heartbreaking choice and they did it wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlrikFassbauer Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 (edited) This quest has an serious logic-hole : You have the droid. He could have jumped into her cell, catch her, and jump back, kind of. Or the ship could go out (piloted by a team member) and dock to where her cell is ... You see things like that in The Clone Wars or in Rebels ... The sheer possibilities to play out the team strengths are so immense in this little quest that I just cannot believe they did a simple LS / DS choice thing out of that ! So much wasted potential ... Edited January 9, 2016 by AlrikFassbauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RennekElsin Posted January 9, 2016 Share Posted January 9, 2016 This quest has an serious logic-hole : You have the droid. He could have jumped into her cell, catch her, and jump back, kind of. Or the ship could go out (piloted by a team member) and dock to where her cell is ... You see things like that in The Clone Wars or in Rebels ... The sheer possibilities to play out the team strengths are so immense in this little quest that I just cannot believe they did a simple LS / DS choice thing out of that ! So much wasted potential ... See this is another good thing. I'm talking tactics here. As I said you also have a team. There are a great number of possibilities, and they only give you two options with three dialogue choices...two of which accomplish the same goal. Its bad writing to make a powerful meaningful choice, and its heavily contrived (which means its deliberately forced without making it seem natural for those of you who don't know.) You are right AlrikFassbauer. The possibilities, I like your reference to the animated series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noyjitat Posted January 10, 2016 Share Posted January 10, 2016 Jaxo should of been one of those choices that mattered. I.E. I want her as a companion eventually in kotfe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveTheCynic Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 Jaxo should of been one of those choices that mattered. I.E. I want her as a companion eventually in kotfe. They could do that, of course, by which I mean write it so that she has a five, six, however long it is since then, mental and emotional journey through some dark places, and emerges ready to do battle with Zakuul and be recruited by a KotFE Alliance alert. Bit rough on the troopers who did the LS thing, unless they write a second branch with a different journey through different dark places. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Setta Posted January 11, 2016 Share Posted January 11, 2016 They could do that, of course, by which I mean write it so that she has a five, six, however long it is since then, mental and emotional journey through some dark places, and emerges ready to do battle with Zakuul and be recruited by a KotFE Alliance alert. Bit rough on the troopers who did the LS thing, unless they write a second branch with a different journey through different dark places. Troopers who did the light side choice could see Jonas Balkar instead maybe. I'd be alright with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkhar Posted December 7, 2016 Share Posted December 7, 2016 What I dislike about this decision is the obvious alternatives discarted so BW could have a fancy "morality decision". The first 2 pulls of droids (and only droids) made it clear it was a disposable station. I realized it as a player, and a Special Forces Operative could have get it too. One could have call Jaxo to get the hell out of there the minute you were into the base. Also, in a fight for your life situation, why she didn't even try with the droids? The very least she could have hold the line enough for the Trooper to come and save her ***. I find it too much forced to trigger me, it's just the script stating that they want some dead, one way or another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoBlakkrstal Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Wimps. Make the choice. Either you save 300 people and let one die, or save the 1 and let 300 people die. Your choice. I have done both during the course of my game play, not for alignment purposes, because I truly believe the toon in question would have actually made the decision that they did. And while it is sad that Jaxo has to die to save those lives, I didn't lose any sleep over it. 1) It's a video game. Pixel people are not real, no matter how engrossed you get in the RPG aspect of the game. And 2) If your alignment is LS, the decision is a no brainer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi_Night_Hawk Posted July 8, 2022 Share Posted July 8, 2022 (edited) It is a very difficult decision, but you have to weigh: save 300 or save 1. I don't want to go into allusions to other series, but there is a phrase that I think is very accurate in this case: "The good of the majority is greater than the good of the minority. Or of just one." I think now I can sleep better. And to Bioware: Excellent job on this mission. Edited July 8, 2022 by Jedi_Night_Hawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightbreedGaming Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 (edited) Personally I really disagreed with how this played out, because: To be fair, saving both her and the other people should absolutely have been an option. Because while you were in contact with her during your boarding, she told you she was with the prisoners. So.. wherever they are she is. And if she was stuck in service level with a bunch of pissed off droids then the prisoners should have been as well. And choosing to vent the shaft should have wiped everyone. Leaving you totally empty handed. So saving them should have meant saving her. There should never have been a choice between the two. Either her holo conversation with you was correct and they were all together and what ended up happening ultimately contradicted everything, OR her holo conversation with you was actually wrong. She didn't know where she was or where the prisoners actually were, and then you had to make that choice. Which would them make the conclusion understandable. The whole thing just contradicted itself though and forced you to make a bad choice without any reason for it with the narrative you got. And then you have to sit there and wish you could go back and replay that chapter to choose the other option. And that they didn't write anyone out of the story after that leaving you with nothing but guilt for the rest of the game. Also, it felt a little odd that in your codex under persons of note, she didn't even get an entry. A77 was a pretty tough choice for a lot of people. The lease they could have done was give Jaxo an entry to remember. Edited August 17, 2022 by NightbreedGaming Additional commentary Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeze-Dry Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) I just did this mission and I know this is 4th wall breaking but please bear with me. I chose... Spoiler ...to save Jaxo. Because after contemplating for about 15 minutes, should I really bother saving 300 nameless soldiers I have no connection to, just so that I can hop onto my imp side toon tomorrow and kill about 600 of them anyways? Jokes aside, I just wanted to say that this mission had probably one of the best writing. Edited December 13, 2023 by Freeze-Dry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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