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05.29.2020 , 02:31 AM | #11
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They could easily silence them and get rid of them but are putting no efforts at all.
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Sorry folks but Bioware will never do anything about it. The game is how old now, and to this day, the spammers are still given free reign.

Over the many years, we all have given suggestions on how to deal with them and Bioware just ignores us.
I'm curious, what are your suggestions on how to deal with them that will not impede on the experience of playing the game for everyone else? I'm asking because the only solutions I could come up with (harsh level/chat restrictions, prohibiting F2Pers from chatting at all, additional layer of forced identification) would constitute a high risk of turning away a certain portion of the player base that will find it to be too much of a hassle for them to continue playing. We already have F2Pers who complain about the moderate chat restrictions that are in place right now.

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05.29.2020 , 04:15 AM | #12
Another fix, EA can pay me $15/hour part time working remotely to go through spam reports, looking at the spam text to see if it's really gold seller spam, and banning reported accounts. Heck. I'll do it for $12/hour.
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05.29.2020 , 05:49 AM | #13
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You forget what we usually see are two gold spammers spamming in pairs, so for two FTP accounts to alternate their messages between the timer, that's completely doable.
Edit: I stand corrected. I was going to log into a F2P account and show you the message that level 1 characters get if they try to use chat, but apparently the chat restrictions have changed since the last time I did that (a year, 18 month or so ago). F2P accounts can use chat at level 1. Perhaps this changed with 6.0 when they changed a number of the restrictions on F2P and preferred accounts. Frankly, I think it's a good thing that the chat restrictions were lifted. It unduly penalized F2P players, making it nearly impossible to group or learn about the game in the early levels, and disincentivized people who were here to try the game from paying to play. It was a ridiculous restriction.

That said, that doesn't mean that BW can't do something more than what they are doing to address the spammers. Sit down interns at terminals and let them nuke the spammers from orbit. But penalizing players who are not breaking the rules so you can target some bad actors is not the answer.
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05.29.2020 , 06:13 AM | #14
If nothing has been done yet, it's probably never going to change. Something to consider, and I'm not in to conspiracy theories, but unless someone can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt, one of those currency sellers could very well be EAWare themselves. They've been selling credits indirectly through their Cartel Market for years. I doubt one of those sellers are them, but also don't put it past them, this is a business and it's about making money. Either way you look at it though, they're obviously not going to do anything about it.
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05.29.2020 , 06:55 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by xordevoreaux View Post
Another fix, EA can pay me $15/hour part time working remotely to go through spam reports, looking at the spam text to see if it's really gold seller spam, and banning reported accounts. Heck. I'll do it for $12/hour.
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05.29.2020 , 07:19 AM | #16
If more people would bother to use the "report spam" function via right-click on the seller's name in the chat window, it would be a lot better. But as I experienced lately, people rather rant in chat or try to insult the spammers for a very long time than report them, so even after half an hour there aren't enough reports to get those seller accounts squelched (which means getting an account wide chat ban for 24 hours)
Sure they could just go and make a new one, but if those would get squelched by the players within minutes every time, at some point it's no longer worth the effort to create a new account. Though then probably the ingame mail spam would increase again.

And last but not least, as long there are players who buy those credits, there will be sellers selling them and spamming advertisements too.
It's not really rocket science to earn enough credits to comfortably play the game by just playing the game, or if people really want to use their real money instead of their time, the cartel market stuff can be sold for credits too. No need to involve those shady sellers at all, yet obviously players still go to them.

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05.29.2020 , 08:06 AM | #17
Remove the ability for non-subscribers to use general chat and mail for characters until they reach Lvl 25?

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05.29.2020 , 08:30 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by RikuvonDrake View Post
Remove the ability for non-subscribers to use general chat and mail for characters until they reach Lvl 25?
Until recently, I'm not certain when it changed, F2P accounts were barred from using chat until level 25. They could not use gen chat, but they also could not use guild chat, they could, IIRC, receive but not send /tell messages. Did those restrictions stop the spammers? I started playing in 2012, when the restrictions on F2P accounts were the most onerous, and credit sellers have been a problem since then. Penalizing people who are not breaking the rules isn't going to stop the spammers. As noted above, more people need to report the spammers. I admit that I don't, but I generally have gen chat turned off, not because of the spammers, but because there are so many toxic people in this community it's not worth having open. Feeling that it's necessary to have gen chat turned off rather than deal with the toxic players is another issue entirely, but it certainly doesn't help to deal with the spammers. Yeah, players could do more by reporting the spammers en masse, and BW could do more by devoting some resources to the problem, but penalizing people who just want to play the game for something they didn't do, don't do, and have no control over isn't the answer.
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05.29.2020 , 09:27 AM | #19
Perhaps if BW decided to try selling its own currency in some reasonable way, similar to how Blizzard is doing it in WoW, they could simply put the credit spammers out of business.

Ever since Blizzard Tokens became a thing in WoW, I have rarely if ever seen any gold spam anymore.
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05.29.2020 , 11:23 AM | #20
Soooooo many fixes to this problem. It's a lack of effort on BW part that is the problem.