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DarthSpuds
01.12.2020 , 05:09 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by JediQuaker View Post
Also, given the time frame - Winter Solstice Holidays et al - many people have barely had time to wear out Onslaught yet.
What?
There was barely 2 hours of content?
The only people who haven't worn it out yet are those who quit before it was released.

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01.12.2020 , 09:00 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by xordevoreaux View Post
What's needed next is a joint EA/Disney announcement that the original 10-year contract has been extended.
please hell no.

that this game needs to further sure but not with EA.
disney most look for a other company that care's about the game more then what EA is doing and have done in the past few years.
EA only has make star wars game's worse then better.

i not know if you are following a other thread that there are lot off bug's still in this game that are old and some off then are really old and still not fix.

what disney most do is easy look for a other company that wane make star wars game's and really care's about there players and comunety and not doing the same like EA only care about making a lot off money and invest notting back from it in the game to make it better.
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01.12.2020 , 09:29 AM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by KendraP View Post
I have checked Keith's launch message, and it addressed none of the issues I raised. And yes, reddit and the forums are where I got information about the twitch stream from. I check the dev tracker at least daily.

And yet I still find the lack of communication pathetic. Maybe people disagree and each has good reasons for it?

I'm going to assume we get information beginning of February, about changes they make without consulting us, or if they do consult us, do what they wanted anyway, ignoring the obvious issues we raise, then launch the new stronghold without bothering to address anything people are commenting on in the PTS thread on it. Because that's their track record.

Seriously, why am I paying for the benefit of posting on this forum. I got so bored with the actual game I havent played except to check kai for the 2 tacticals I want in what a month.

But it seems they're fine with that. Who needs active players as long as someones paying the bills?
Yes, that was a typo i meant to say the beginning of February.

Honestly though, have you played any other mmo's? Like WoW's team doesn't communicate as much as this team does. FF goes at least 1 or 2 months before saying anything as well, and those are the biggest mmo's in the market.
But you know, this is swtor and you've been here for many years. You know how they act in regards to bugs, especially performance based problems. They usually take years to fix.
I remember back in the day i left this game because of the ability delay bug where you would get "ghost" GCD's. It took years for that to be fixed, but it seems to be fixed now and here i am again.

Thing is performance based bugs are not the field of the guys that talk to us, wich are the community manager lead and the creative lead. Keith Kennig is the producer, and i am sure he knows what is going on, but it is clear that the engineering branch has issues of manpower and expertise, so anything and everything takes a long time.

Doesn't mean we shouldn't keep asking though. But i gotta say, if you are bored of the game, then i suggest playing something else in the meanwhile rather than frustrate yourself here. I actually find swtor the most fun mmo out atm. Like, literal raw fun. Gearing up is a lot of fun, playing alts is a lot of fun. There are bugs and performance issues. They suck. I secretly hope they are developing something like a SWTOR2 a realm reborn/cataclysm in order to solve all those back end engine issues.
Heck, i'd be happy with them upgrading the game to windows 10 native, now that windows 7 is gonna be unsupported by MS.

Fingers crossed. But, you know, i am managing to keep myself busy. Alts are the solution for me. But of course, we all wish the game has more content. At the end of the day that will bring more players than bug fixes. It is what it is. But i hope we get both.

Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
What?
There was barely 2 hours of content?
The only people who haven't worn it out yet are those who quit before it was released.

All The Best
So, took you 2 hours to gear up all your toons? To complete Dxun? To do those weekly and heroic tech fragment grinds?

Onslaught gave us a lot of content. If you don't want to do it, this is not the game for you. If story is all you care about, be prepared for these long months of wait and 2 hours of content, cause it's what you're gonna keep getting. Get used to it. We are not going back to the Eternal throne/knights model that almost killed off the game.

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01.12.2020 , 09:42 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Spikanor View Post
please hell no.

that this game needs to further sure but not with EA.
disney most look for a other company that care's about the game more then what EA is doing and have done in the past few years.
EA only has make star wars game's worse then better.

i not know if you are following a other thread that there are lot off bug's still in this game that are old and some off then are really old and still not fix.

what disney most do is easy look for a other company that wane make star wars game's and really care's about there players and comunety and not doing the same like EA only care about making a lot off money and invest notting back from it in the game to make it better.
I understand where you are coming from, but Bioware is the developer of this game. Bioware belongs to EA. There will be no game without EA unless Bioware could buy itself somehow or was acquired by lucasfilm (fat chance given how Star wars is flopping in general atm).
I think it is very likely that EA gets the license renewed after Jedi fallen order (hopefully it will not be exclusive anymore though). I do hope they have plans to make a swtor 2 of some sort though (i mean more like ARR/Cataclysm, rather than a new game with a new engine. Though i guess with the experience they will have with frostbite it might be possible, but neither one is especially awesome).

It is also possible that EA doesn't get the full rights but swtor continues. Remember it was going on before the deal with lucasfilm was signed.

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JediQuaker
01.12.2020 , 09:46 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
There was barely 2 hours of content.
The only people who haven't worn it out yet are those who quit before it was released.
IF all you did was rush through Onderon and Mek-sha on only one character, then yes, it was only about 2 hours of content. But there is more to Onslaught than just the straight PvE quests. You could spend lots of time gearing up to 306 and doing the Onderon dailies. There is also a new Flashpoint, and some "secret-ish" vendors. Plus lots of scenery to just admire.

And also, don't forget that, for Americans, the Holiday season runs from Thanksgiving in November, until after the New Year. Some people spend lots more time with family and friends during that period, than playing games. While old retired guys like me can play all day, every day, many people with families are lucky to get just a few hours per week, especially at this time of year. (And, oddly enough, some BW employees also get time off from work! 😍 )
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KendraP
01.12.2020 , 10:15 AM | #16
The field of the guys that talk to us? The person that talks to us is musco, who to my understanding is literally a community manager.

And no I dont play other mmos because I dont see subscribing to multiple mmos.

All I'm expecting is a "hey we see you're unhappy with stuff" comment. Like seriously, how is that a high expectation.

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Spikanor
01.12.2020 , 10:57 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
I understand where you are coming from, but Bioware is the developer of this game. Bioware belongs to EA. There will be no game without EA unless Bioware could buy itself somehow or was acquired by lucasfilm (fat chance given how Star wars is flopping in general atm).
I think it is very likely that EA gets the license renewed after Jedi fallen order (hopefully it will not be exclusive anymore though). I do hope they have plans to make a swtor 2 of some sort though (i mean more like ARR/Cataclysm, rather than a new game with a new engine. Though i guess with the experience they will have with frostbite it might be possible, but neither one is especially awesome).

It is also possible that EA doesn't get the full rights but swtor continues. Remember it was going on before the deal with lucasfilm was signed.
so far i know and thats all about after the big mass with battlefront 2 that time that EA is gone lose a lot off rights off the star wars game's maybe gone loss then all.
after the big mass from battlefront 2 there was news from that disney has reopen there old company again that was closed before EA got the linces for making the game's.
Lucasarts was the name from the company.
that company from disney was back in the day's good with making good star wars game's.
and who knows is gone be lucasarts company thats gone running SWTOR also.
and who knows there have fond all a other company to run this game that is better then EA.
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01.12.2020 , 03:22 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Nemmar View Post
So, took you 2 hours to gear up all your toons? To complete Dxun? To do those weekly and heroic tech fragment grinds?

Onslaught gave us a lot of content. If you don't want to do it, this is not the game for you. If story is all you care about, be prepared for these long months of wait and 2 hours of content, cause it's what you're gonna keep getting. Get used to it. We are not going back to the Eternal throne/knights model that almost killed off the game.
No, it took me two hours to play through the story element.
I am not stupid/desperate/addicted (delete as appropriate) enough to rinse-repeat already stale content to complete a deliberately, excessively extended (moronically thought out ) gear-grind that will only just get me back to being what I was BEFORE the gear-grind was added.

And as I have repeatedly said, but you seem to ignore because it suits your deliberately dishonest representation of my position, I don't want to go back to KotFE/ET either - that was where it all started to go so badly wrong it is almost unrecoverable.

We need to go further back than that - to Class Story content; that is, after all, what this game was built on.

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01.12.2020 , 04:25 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
...to complete a deliberately, excessively extended (moronically thought out ) gear-grind that will only just get me back to being what I was BEFORE the gear-grind was added.
If it's excessively extended, then how could I get 10+ characters in full 306 gear with the mods I wanted, set bonuses and tacticals in 3 weeks?

I do agree that it's not a good gear system but for different reasons. The only thing that takes longer is the augments, which you don't need for most content anyyway, but that's because they put a frustrating gate in the form of conquest-only materials.

I do think that the gearing system is moronic but not because it's an extended grind. My issues lie around how harder content is not rewarding anymore and the issue that also because it's so easy and quick to gear up characters to BiS gear, it's very short-term to me. I'm almost done augmenting and that's something I do just because it's something to do. Essentially I'm already long done with gearing my 12 characters. So now what?

In short: there's a lot wrong with the current gearing system, but it's not because it's an extended grind. Once you figure out how it works, it's the fastest we can gear up our toons ever in this game... but that's also one of the issues with it.
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01.12.2020 , 08:24 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by DarthSpuds View Post
No, it took me two hours to play through the story element.
I am not stupid/desperate/addicted (delete as appropriate) enough to rinse-repeat already stale content to complete a deliberately, excessively extended (moronically thought out ) gear-grind that will only just get me back to being what I was BEFORE the gear-grind was added.

And as I have repeatedly said, but you seem to ignore because it suits your deliberately dishonest representation of my position, I don't want to go back to KotFE/ET either - that was where it all started to go so badly wrong it is almost unrecoverable.

We need to go further back than that - to Class Story content; that is, after all, what this game was built on.

All The Best
Surely you realise that isn't going to happen. We only had that with the vanilla release so... you don't want a patch or an expansion, you want swtor 2 with completely new class stories.