EllieAnne Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 You continual return of a chip makes the casino night nothing but a boring timesink. Why not just have us win something (other than a replacement chip; like a certificate, higher token or jackpot) or lose? It's to the point that I crave the red light of a loss and bemoan when I win the 50X Kingpin tokens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jumay Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 I agree completely. You can spin for an extended period and only win a free chip and periodically you may lose one. The benefits of playing the slots are overwhelmed by the boredom of the winnings most often Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xordevoreaux Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Things to make it more interesting: 1. Achievement award: win 10,000 free chips to unlock the Vaiken space dock apartment 2. In addition to free chips, you occasionally get free fragments 3. After 200 free chips, occasionally win a legacy level boost, 20 cartel coins, or a random stronghold deco 4. Playing next to someone hogging 2 slot machines at once increases the likelihood they'll be electrocuted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templock Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Not sure if making gambling more interesting is a good idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casirabit Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 Agreed. Please stop giving me chips. I don't care if I win something just quit giving me the chips. I just want to get rid of the chips (and you can't sell them so I am stuck with them) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted July 24, 2021 Share Posted July 24, 2021 Would be nice if we didn't expect for there to be complete silence on this bit of reasonable feedback and we'll have to wait about a year to see if they bothered to change it. I genuinely like the event's prizes and the vibe of it is well done (really, great job adding missions!) but yes, the tedium is awful and not interesting at all. Also, the glasses drop rates are terrible enough as is, I hope if that when the event returns, they're at least buyable. Gambling bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRKMSN Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Would be nice if we didn't expect for there to be complete silence on this bit of reasonable feedback and we'll have to wait about a year to see if they bothered to change it. I genuinely like the event's prizes and the vibe of it is well done (really, great job adding missions!) but yes, the tedium is awful and not interesting at all. Also, the glasses drop rates are terrible enough as is, I hope if that when the event returns, they're at least buyable. Gambling bad. While I wouldn't mind if they removed the free chip reward and refigured the math to compensate for it's removal. However, I'm fine with them leaving it as is so long as every year they add new things (slot prizes, decos and/or gear, and move a couple old prizes to the Golden certificate vendor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Severith Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 FF14 has the Gold Saucer, where you get to gamble against other people, participate in timed events, do stuff that involves strategy and or skill. You know, things that could theoretically be fun. SWTOR lets you put chips in machines, so you hopefully win a chip to put in a different machine, and hopefully win something with a very small percentage chance. It's stuff like the Nightlife event that makes me think SWTOR is just a big lab for EA to see just how miserable gamers are willing to be in order to get cosmetics. As it turns out, pretty miserable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Templock Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 Instead of just walking away from this boring event, I want someone else to do something to make it more worth my precious time to do this boring event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 At least we can press 3 kingpin machines at a time. I never see the appeal for slot machine because it IS boring. I do wish they at least give us a different colored Wraith, so there is some variety. There could be an achievement for collecting 5 colors of Wraith, and a title for that. It would be more fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 At least we can press 3 kingpin machines at a time. I never see the appeal for slot machine because it IS boring. I do wish they at least give us a different colored Wraith, so there is some variety. There could be an achievement for collecting 5 colors of Wraith, and a title for that. It would be more fun. NO MORE WRAITHS, I BEG. But, like, more glasses and higher chances for them, totally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toraak Posted July 25, 2021 Share Posted July 25, 2021 OP sorry I disagree. All they would do is make you lose on 99% of the times you use a chip. There is nothing wrong with getting your chip back as a prize. If you feel the event is to grindy, then take a break and play other parts of the game. Regardless of how many chips you have, nothing is making you play it. Keep extra chips for next year if you have what you want from this years prizes. You do not need to use them all you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 OP sorry I disagree. All they would do is make you lose on 99% of the times you use a chip. There is nothing wrong with getting your chip back as a prize. If you feel the event is to grindy, then take a break and play other parts of the game. Regardless of how many chips you have, nothing is making you play it. Keep extra chips for next year if you have what you want from this years prizes. You do not need to use them all you know. Winning a chip back only allows you a chance at the other options. It is literally putting off another inevitable option. It is the epitome of redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCDenton Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I'd rather have the option to sell my emperor chips for a credit at this point. "Free chip" needs to be deleted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarova Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I'd rather have the option to sell my emperor chips for a credit at this point. "Free chip" needs to be deleted. I concur. Either that or put better prizes back into the King Pin machines. Is it correct that only the orange-mount-of-doom (aka Vectron BWL Wraith) and Phrojo are the only big prizes from King Pins and everything else can only be won from the Emperor's Grace machines now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 (edited) Winning a chip back only allows you a chance at the other options. It is literally putting off another inevitable option. It is the epitome of redundant. Don't know if it's the same in other countries, but here, you have to have a certain percent chance of winning. One of the reasons they have win your coin back (in real machines) is that they can say they are hitting their %. The lotto scratch cards have a 7 in 10 chance of being a winner, but 4 of those chances are just another scratch card (coin back basically) It could be the same here, even if they don't have to do it by law, they can still say 70% of the pulls are winners, even though 50% are just a coin back. Personally I'd lose that 50%, and have a lower chance of winning, if it meant a better chance at getting the good prize, or even if it meant that I didn't feel like I was putting the same coin in over and over Someone mentioned being about to trade in kingpin chips for emperor chips, I'd definitely support this Edited July 26, 2021 by DarkTergon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casirabit Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 I'd rather have the option to sell my emperor chips for a credit at this point. "Free chip" needs to be deleted. That would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eabevella Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 NO MORE WRAITHS, I BEG. But, like, more glasses and higher chances for them, totally. I still haven't got the high roller shade! It's the only thing I want. Sad gambler is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekibra Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 worst thing for me (apart fron the free chip and the 50 kingpins): I now almost dread the jackpot sound at the emperor machine because it almost always means I won another wraith someone purely evil came up with that idea me thinkz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkTergon Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 worst thing for me (apart fron the free chip and the 50 kingpins): I now almost dread the jackpot sound at the emperor machine because it almost always means I won another wraith someone purely evil came up with that idea me thinkz... I hate the 50 kingpin chips, as I know I'll never use them, at least with the wraiths, I've 90+ chars on the server, so it'll take a while before they all have one...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekibra Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 I hate the 50 kingpin chips, as I know I'll never use them, at least with the wraiths, I've 90+ chars on the server, so it'll take a while before they all have one...lol Hehehe… I don’t have that many toons but the ones I have also have a wraith- now I sell them… but I still find it rather evil to include the wraith as a possible jackpot for the Emperor's machine, you know, thanks I am already getting enough from the kingpins ^^ alas, at least I got the pet 4x and the predator last year… who wants those shades anyway Me needz them, my precious shades, :sobbing: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuvonDrake Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 welcome to gambling, most people dislike it, and yet continue to do it win/win for bioware, regardless if you win or lose on the slot machines Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavantDreadtech Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Personally I just play for around 30 mins and no more on any given day. I just don't see the need to continue to play just because I still have tokens left. 30 mins is more than enough. The only two things I would change is not to run this event at the same time as any other event, such as galactic seasons, double XP events. The second thing is make every year have different rewards, no rewards from the pervious year. Having them from the vender is fine, just not as rewards from the slot machines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthCasus Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I still haven't got the high roller shade! It's the only thing I want. Sad gambler is sad. Got my shades and pet, I retract my previous statements, as I am now better than the rest of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WizardGR Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 The casino, it''s just pure luck. I won all the 0 (zero) possibility achievements, while I was at preferable state. As a sub now.. I am far far away to another galaxy. (away from casino). As far I know, they haven''t add new content, or a new buff that doubles your luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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