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BW: Have you gathered enough feedback on the new PvP

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BW: Have you gathered enough feedback on the new PvP

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sithBracer
04.12.2021 , 08:50 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiberi View Post
Ever sens day one pvp been broken. They try nerf some classes but when they do they nerf all so realy none is nerft. How can they miss thet? Now pvp is stun stun and more stun. I think they dont know or how to fix it atm.
Which "classes" have they nerfed exactly?

They nerfed death knell into the ground which was an assassin nerf.
They stopped you from changing tacticals mid-fight which was almost completely an assassin nerf.
They nerfed damage on guard which was almost completely an assassin nerf since dps PT and Jugg usually NEED the guard, PTs still do insane damage with it and most juggs play immortal if they are smart.
They even "fixed" deflection graphics so you could see what other buffs are on the class more clearly (I never even knew this was a problem).

And this was after assassins got the most useless new ability in the history of this game.

I see only one class getting nerfed into the ground here.

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foxmob
04.12.2021 , 10:43 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by Tiberi View Post
Ever sens day one pvp been broken. They try nerf some classes but when they do they nerf all so realy none is nerft. How can they miss thet? Now pvp is stun stun and more stun. I think they dont know or how to fix it atm.
I have to agree with sithbracer here. the major issue with BW "balance changes" over the years has been that when they nerf something, they often nerf it into obscurity and it stays mired in obscurity for years. likewise, buffs are often left to sit for ages.

arenas exacerbate these balance issues, not out of some sinister "deep state" plot, but simply because there are fewer players on each team, which means each player needs to carry a heavier load. so they each have to be...well...better as individuals in terms of productivity (dmg output and survivability).

solo rated arenas further thin-out this field for much the same problem as arenas in general, because many specs severely underperform without A) support roles, and B) matched specs of teammates to synergize strengths with one another.

FWIW, I'm by no means poo-pooing on arenas. just explaining the facts about why balancing classes and specs is very difficult, even if BW were to make frequent balance changes (which they largely do not).

however, in all honest, if you are upset about role/spec balance in regs, the problem is you not your spec. don't get me wrong, there are certain specs that are much better than others, but every spec can contribute constructively in regs w/o being a drag on the team.

as for that throwaway comment about "stun wars," I should point out that that was a major complaint about players since 1.0, and BW made a stupifying change to the resolve system because of said complaining. anyway, the plethora of stuns isn't a recent occurrence.

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Tiberi
04.12.2021 , 10:59 AM | #13
I played the beta so i know things was diffrent back at 1.0. Lets hope they fix it so we can have fun and enjoy the game.
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EllieAnne
04.17.2021 , 09:21 AM | #14
Looking over this forum, I noticed the lack of those stylized BW indicating a Bioware CM has responded in a thread. When was the last time the CM addressed ANY of our PvP concerns? I'd be interested in seeing the job description for a Community Manager and how much of their job is expected to be working with community issues.

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YaddleTwo
04.26.2021 , 11:14 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by EllieAnne View Post
to start making decisions? For the last 3 months we've heard your apparent inattentiveness to us is that you are gathering feedback so do you have enough after the multitude of threads on it?

If not, how much more do you need?

If so, are you going to let us know what the devs' decisions are?
/co-signed

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BallisticKaine
04.26.2021 , 11:38 AM | #16
Yeah their feedback was to merge lowbie and midbie pvp into one bracket. That is what they gathered. So now if you go into PvP before level 43 you WILL NEVER GET A WIN. YOU CAN'T LEAVE THE MATCH WITHOUT GETTING THE 15 MINUTE LOCKOUT. AND YOU WILL GET STEAM ROLLED AND NOT HAVE FUN. GOOD JOB BIOFAIL (BIOWARE) ON ONCE AGAIN KILLING PVP. THE ONE THING THAT IS KEEPING THIS GAME WITH PLAYERS COMPARED TO YOUR LACKLUSTER PVE SLOW TO RELEASE CONTENT.

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DarkAmelia
04.26.2021 , 04:49 PM | #17
^^^^ Was just going to say the same thing...lol
I'd love to know what group they actually talk to.

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Sappharan
04.26.2021 , 08:57 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by EllieAnne View Post
Looking over this forum, I noticed the lack of those stylized BW indicating a Bioware CM has responded in a thread. When was the last time the CM addressed ANY of our PvP concerns? I'd be interested in seeing the job description for a Community Manager and how much of their job is expected to be working with community issues.
Patience, Ellie. These things take time. They're "...monitoring the situation."

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TrixxieTriss
04.26.2021 , 10:10 PM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by EllieAnne View Post
to start making decisions? For the last 3 months we've heard your apparent inattentiveness to us is that you are gathering feedback so do you have enough after the multitude of threads on it?

If not, how much more do you need?

If so, are you going to let us know what the devs' decisions are?
Soon ™️

In all seriousness, their answer to our feed back seems to be -
Quote:
Warzones

PvP brackets have been merged into two brackets instead of three: 1-74 and 75.

After several performance adjustments bringing them more on-par with the classic Huttball map, Queshball and Vandin Huttball are now back in the PvP Map Rotation.
It just goes to show that Bioware don’t listen and if they do read what we say, they don’t understand it.