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If someone from Bioware can answer this ongoing problem with GSF, I'll pick up a sub.

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If someone from Bioware can answer this ongoing problem with GSF, I'll pick up a sub.

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Mystic_Chaos
09.16.2021 , 01:38 PM | #1
I know the title is lame but I'd pay just to hear an official answer. This topic has been brought up in the forum nearly since GSF was launched and never addressed. I stayed subbed for years despite the lack of story and end game but I enjoyed GSF so much, I kept paying. Bioware refused to handle Griefers/Leeches/Cheaters, whatever they are called or the reason for the behavior so I dropped my sub 2 years ago, only picking up 1 month a year, at least until a new MMO comes out.

Giving the exact time and player info, Bioware should be able to pull up the player account and see their record. Dying 10 times without firing a shot and avoiding vote kick, that takes effort. There could be something on the backend to weed these people out, like if their legacy has over 30 matches with 0's across the board, they get banned from GSF. Let them appeal it if they like but they should have to explain their actions too. People have openly admitted in the match that they do it and they've even took the conversation to fleet chat saying they do it and good luck kicking them. Bioware dropped the ball on player behavior to the point people feel comfortable admitting they throw matches in Fleet Chat. Also, I don't mean new players, people testing out GSF for the first time getting the hang of it but people who play match after match without doing a thing but dying.

I blame them but I also blame Bioware. Forcing people in playing content they don't like for Conquest or Galactic Seasons makes the problem worse. If the idea is to make people play PVP, give them an option of Warzones or GSF but also address the people throwing matches on top of it. I see it in Warzones too. I don't know if Galactic Seasons 2 will improve GSF cheaters but I won't bet on it. Throwing a match in GSF takes maybe 3 minutes while running an OP, Uprising, Warzones, it all takes longer to get the points. Why wouldn't they cheat when they can get away with it and 5x the points in the same amount of time?

It would be nice to uphold the Terms of Service and Rules of Conduct. By Bioware and EA's own vague legalese, the players are violating TOS because they don't play as intended and ruining other players fun along with causing a loss of revenue since people unsub.

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DarkTergon
09.16.2021 , 02:55 PM | #2
There is sooo much I'd like to say about this.....but i've been targeted too much already for speaking my mind. This is one, of a lot of issues. I'm not a gsf ace, but even so, the leeching, etc is bad, and annoying...but they don't seem to care.
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Mystic_Chaos
09.16.2021 , 05:03 PM | #3
It is only one of several issues. There are quite a few things I can say about GSF but overall, I like the gameplay. More Ships, Maps, Req uses, expansion into other gameplay, all can be listed but dealing with the griefers are low hanging fruit and quicker to fix than the rest I guess.

If anything the community does the legwork for Bioware by reporting them with pictures. This is more of a joke but if given access to the scoreboards, I'd collate all of it manually and deliver everything on a silver platter. Pay me in Cartel Coins. A little code on the backend could solve it all though. Them not caring is the issue. It's clear they don't play GSF or it would have been fixed along with other things.

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Baletraeger
09.17.2021 , 09:44 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Mystic_Chaos View Post
It's clear they don't play GSF
Just GSF?
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waisting
09.17.2021 , 01:24 PM | #5
I am primarily a conquest focused pilot, but I do try. I don't suicide myself to get the extra ship count even though it's "better" for conquest. I'd rather win - I play the objectives and do my best every time. Even as a more "casual" player than most here I'm sure, the leeching absolutely kills matches for me. It makes me not want to queue.

It sucks to see my team control two sats, then we have none. I look at the map and see two people spinning in circles or idle, and we can't vote kick them because they manage to "contribute" via blowing themselves up or simply I can't get people to vote to kick. And sometimes when I ask people to vote kick I get hit with telling me to focus on the match and not what others are doing. What?? Paying attention to my teammates is what I do to make sure I can support if needed since people don't call for help 9 times out of 10 (in gsf or warzones).

And it's getting worse and worse all the time. I just did a match on Star Forge today and there were 3 leeches (2 on my team, 1 on the other) in just that one match. People are aware that they don't actually have to contribute, and there's nothing that can be done to stop them from doing so.

Rant over... sorry about that.

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thorrnnn
10.15.2021 , 04:26 PM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by waisting View Post
I am primarily a conquest focused pilot, but I do try. I don't suicide myself to get the extra ship count even though it's "better" for conquest. I'd rather win - I play the objectives and do my best every time. Even as a more "casual" player than most here I'm sure, the leeching absolutely kills matches for me. It makes me not want to queue.

It sucks to see my team control two sats, then we have none. I look at the map and see two people spinning in circles or idle, and we can't vote kick them because they manage to "contribute" via blowing themselves up or simply I can't get people to vote to kick. And sometimes when I ask people to vote kick I get hit with telling me to focus on the match and not what others are doing. What?? Paying attention to my teammates is what I do to make sure I can support if needed since people don't call for help 9 times out of 10 (in gsf or warzones).

And it's getting worse and worse all the time. I just did a match on Star Forge today and there were 3 leeches (2 on my team, 1 on the other) in just that one match. People are aware that they don't actually have to contribute, and there's nothing that can be done to stop them from doing so.

Rant over... sorry about that.
was in a match the other day where we "WERE" winning until 4 players from the same guild joined and self destructed the whole match. it was the match where you had to get 50pts. needless to say the other side won by 30pts from the SDers.