KevMeup Posted February 27, 2017 Author Share Posted February 27, 2017 This wasn't in your parse i presume? I found out due to CC fraud my sub lapsed just long enough for me to not get the Z0-0M comp So I can only personally test with Z3N. Ive got a friend leveling up zoom though so well get some numbers once she's 50. When I noticed that extra AOE heal I almost died. It's about 25k per target.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMeup Posted March 6, 2017 Author Share Posted March 6, 2017 (edited) I made a few adjustments to my recommendations for all roles and did a little cleanup. In 5.x accuracy for non-force/tech attacks was changed, so ranged companions miss less and melee companions miss more. This seems to make dual pistol users even for DPS with dual saber users. I still don't understand why melee 1 handed users (Yunn) are so much lower dps than ranged blaster riffle users (Lt. Pierce), they should be even now, so it's just some strange hard coded damage difference. Edited March 6, 2017 by KevMeup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SalBasss Posted March 14, 2017 Share Posted March 14, 2017 Thanks very much for this thread - after returning from a lengthy absence I [wrongly] assumed that since gear didn't matter** anymore and all companions could play all roles, that all companions were virtually equivalent at all roles - or very close. I never would have give it another thought had I not stumbled on this thread. **I also found out that gear does matter a little bit - in that if the companions do not have a weapon equipped, they don't do any real damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwayn Posted March 16, 2017 Share Posted March 16, 2017 I'm curious, did you test Shae Viszla in dps-stance? I've done some heroics with dps/dps combo and her aerial annihilation (the DFA-like aoe skill) seems to be very hard hitting. Maybe it comes with the cost of weaker basic attacks? But for heroics with lots of mob-groups she seems stronger than for example Master Ranos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMeup Posted March 17, 2017 Author Share Posted March 17, 2017 -snip- Thanks, glad to help. It's amazing how many people just use Lana and assume she's even. Most all of them heal well and can get you through most content, but it's nice having a bonus, especially if you're soloing or duo-ing group content. I'm curious, did you test Shae Viszla in dps-stance? I've done some heroics with dps/dps combo and her aerial annihilation (the DFA-like aoe skill) seems to be very hard hitting. Maybe it comes with the cost of weaker basic attacks? But for heroics with lots of mob-groups she seems stronger than for example Master Ranos. Well I'll be damned... She is above normal for her weapon type. Thanks for letting me know. This is the parse I have at level 1, I'll post again when I get her to 50. 1.5mil parse: C2-N2 Droid Level 1 (single pistol user) 3260 Shae Shae Vizla Level 1 (single pistol user) 4160 AOE: Supressive fire: 2925/ 4750 crit x 2 hits Aerial Annihilation: 4630/ 7630 crit x 6 hits! The tool tip is messed up, it says 1.5 second channel, but the data mining reveals it's a 3 second channel. https://swtor.jedipedia.net/en/nco/shae-vizla Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrwayn Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Thx for the confirmation. Glad I wasn't imagining things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMeup Posted March 18, 2017 Author Share Posted March 18, 2017 Thx for the confirmation. Glad I wasn't imagining things Shae Vizla, Level 50, 6350! By far the highest dps companion now. Wow... and thanks for the info! I'll update guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
orujd Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) Talking about fair and balanced... I was going through the numbers and couldn't help but thinking it might as well be posted in bug section as well... I am not sure if I am more baffled with Shae Vizla numbers or the injustice that was done to Treek and HK-51 - once beloved and revered, now a total scrap (HK losing its one-hit-kill ability and Treek failing miserably at healing), especially when taken in consideration what one has to go through to obtain an HK unit. Anyhow, I was wondering - what are the numbers that other companions are pulling and that haven't been mentioned? More specifically Arcann, Khem Val, HK-55, Darth Marr, Lana Beniko, Empress Acina, Senya Tirall...to name the few... I am aware it's not really simple to get them all to level 50 to make all the tests, but I am sure it would be interesting to see, and who knows, some may even pleasantly surprise us. Edited April 18, 2017 by orujd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel_Caparros Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Does anyone know if the new iokath Droid is useful? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMeup Posted May 20, 2017 Author Share Posted May 20, 2017 -snip- Yeah, it's pretty sad whats happened to HK and Treek I added a few more dps I had: Leval 50, Gault, 5043 gault (Ranged, Sniper Riffle) Leval 50, Lana, 4650 (1 saber, melee) Leval 50, Theron Shan, 5180 (Ranged, 2 Pistols) Leval 50, Vette, 5100 (Ranged, 2 Pistols) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonMo Posted June 2, 2017 Share Posted June 2, 2017 What Parsing tool do you use? If we know your method, maybe some of us can help fill in the gaps with the companions that are missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDahj Posted June 3, 2017 Share Posted June 3, 2017 I made a few adjustments to my recommendations for all roles and did a little cleanup. In 5.x accuracy for non-force/tech attacks was changed, so ranged companions miss less and melee companions miss more. This seems to make dual pistol users even for DPS with dual saber users. I still don't understand why melee 1 handed users (Yunn) are so much lower dps than ranged blaster riffle users (Lt. Pierce), they should be even now, so it's just some strange hard coded damage difference. Well Yuun was bugged back in 2.x era so I assume since launch where some of the abilities were boosted by Willpower instead of Aim. I am guessing the ability is still boosted by willpower but since i can put willpower gear on the companion to test can't say for certain. I vaguely recall several other companions had similar issues, perhaps some other old timers can help remember which ones they were and we can figure out if they are under performing now. I believe parsec tracked companions. Google found this https://parsec.codeplex.com/ enjoy -jams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonMo Posted June 21, 2017 Share Posted June 21, 2017 Well Yuun was bugged back in 2.x era so I assume since launch where some of the abilities were boosted by Willpower instead of Aim. I am guessing the ability is still boosted by willpower but since i can put willpower gear on the companion to test can't say for certain. I vaguely recall several other companions had similar issues, perhaps some other old timers can help remember which ones they were and we can figure out if they are under performing now. I believe parsec tracked companions. Google found this https://parsec.codeplex.com/ enjoy -jams Companions no longer gain stats from gear. Also Willpower, Aim, etc have all been replaced with Mastery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coppersmitth Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Does anyone know how blizz does? I leveled him to 50 for a few reasons. #1 I love Jawa's. #2 He has a large influence gain from almost every type of gift so it was super easy to level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonMo Posted July 4, 2017 Share Posted July 4, 2017 Does anyone know how blizz does? I leveled him to 50 for a few reasons. #1 I love Jawa's. #2 He has a large influence gain from almost every type of gift so it was super easy to level. He put a link to the parse app he uses under the Parse section. Let us know what you find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JacksonMo Posted July 5, 2017 Share Posted July 5, 2017 If anyone is interested, the new Gamorean Bodyguard parsed a respectable 5718 dps against the fleet target dummy at lvl 50 influence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redsoxdave Posted August 2, 2017 Share Posted August 2, 2017 OP, you've done an awesome job. I wonder what the variance is for these DPS parses. I ran four 1M dmg parses on the fleet operations dummy with a level 50 Kira (alll datacrons, buffs, but no other effects or gear) and got the following: Parse 1: 5030 dps Parse 2: 5301 dps Parse 3: 4942 dps Parse 4: 4973 dps For reference, my level 1 2V-R8 parsed at 3409 dps the one time I ran him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrobviousinaz Posted August 9, 2017 Share Posted August 9, 2017 I just found this guide and wanted to say awesome job and thanks for putting in the effort for the community. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UmbralSpirit Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Marr makes for a good tanking companion....IF you are like me and don't give a flying piece of bantha dung about KotFE/KotET that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sasco Posted August 25, 2017 Share Posted August 25, 2017 Thanks for the great guide! I must be slow but how do you set Parsec to just show companion DPS? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firelake Posted September 5, 2017 Share Posted September 5, 2017 "If you are in fights that don't have a very high healing requirement, I'd recommend using any of the high DPS companions above (with 1 weapons, not Shae Vizla) and disabling their Channeled heal." When you say "with 1 weapons, not Shae Vizla" do you mean one of the melee companions? Out of curiosity, why not Shae? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phalczen Posted September 6, 2017 Share Posted September 6, 2017 "If you are in fights that don't have a very high healing requirement, I'd recommend using any of the high DPS companions above (with 1 weapons, not Shae Vizla) and disabling their Channeled heal." When you say "with 1 weapons, not Shae Vizla" do you mean one of the melee companions? Out of curiosity, why not Shae? Thanks. I think perhaps there was a typo. KevMeUp's results speak to the following: Shae Viszla seems to have exceptional dps due to an extra aoe "death from above"-like channeled attack. After her, by ranking, are the dual wielders (ranged or melee.) Highest HPS appears to be Z0-OM, due to an aoe Kolto-cloud like ability. Followed by the dual-wielders. If you are soloing content, and you need a healing companion, but need to do some dps with that comp as well, then a great option is to use a dual wielder (either ranged or melee) and click off the channeled heal, so that more of their "rotation" is freed up for damage. There may be certain encounters that you might prefer a melee over a ranged comp ... I'm thinking the Round 6 Eternal Championship fight with Breaktown Brawler and the kintans. I personally have not found Shae to be a better healer than Z0-OM or the dual-wielders. Maybe KevMeUp has tested? Either way, if you are on a healer character, you can use either Shae, dual wielders, or Lokin in tank spec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xWiCKEDx Posted October 16, 2017 Share Posted October 16, 2017 This guide is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LasagnaSurfer Posted November 10, 2017 Share Posted November 10, 2017 Has anyone done any research on the Gamorrean Bodyguard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KevMeup Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 "If you are in fights that don't have a very high healing requirement, I'd recommend using any of the high DPS companions above (with 1 weapons, not Shae Vizla) and disabling their Channeled heal." When you say "with 1 weapons, not Shae Vizla" do you mean one of the melee companions? Out of curiosity, why not Shae? Thanks. This was a typo, as I meant 2 weapons (blasters or sabers). Shae only gains additional DPS from using her death from above, which is not available in heal stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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