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Levelling gear in 7.0

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Craig_Mitchell
11.26.2021 , 03:49 AM | #1
I've heard rumors that the current levelling gear (Apprentice/Accurate/Cunning, Requisitioned, Tarnished, Aftermarket, Carbon-Scored, Decorated, Battle-Scarred, Toxic, Thermal, Unleashed, Visionary, Corellian, Crystalline, Fractured, Yavin) will be scrapped/made unobtainable with 7.0

Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? Some of these sets have rather unique skins or colors that are nigh (or completely) unobtainable otherwise.

Not to mention that (in my testing), this group of gear is the only group that switches to the Republic variant when worn by a companion in a cutscene.

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Ruvalie
11.26.2021 , 05:43 AM | #2
I heard they were removing them from the starter planets, which is already bad enough. If they remove them from all planets then I'm probably going to stop playing until they add them back. Hope someone can answer this question.

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merovejec
11.26.2021 , 06:14 AM | #3
I really dont like when they remove stuff like this. IF they do decide on this they should at least provide som vendor or something which would give you this instead!
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nepochop
11.27.2021 , 01:43 AM | #4
Very good point! I know there are some sets, which when worn by companions, dont change in the cutscenes. This is pretty good stuff I hope this wont gete lost!

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Damask_Rose
11.27.2021 , 12:32 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by Craig_Mitchell View Post
I've heard rumors that the current levelling gear (Apprentice/Accurate/Cunning, Requisitioned, Tarnished, Aftermarket, Carbon-Scored, Decorated, Battle-Scarred, Toxic, Thermal, Unleashed, Visionary, Corellian, Crystalline, Fractured, Yavin) will be scrapped/made unobtainable with 7.0

Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? Some of these sets have rather unique skins or colors that are nigh (or completely) unobtainable otherwise.
This is a big question for me too! I only tested Korriban and I would very much like to know if it holds true for the rest of the planets. On Korriban the main pieces of the old sets Apprentice Pummeler 1 & 2 were replaced with half of a Korriban set that looked similar to this. Since they are replace 2 sets with 1, the new set was lvl restricted to 7, so you can't equip it until you are half way done with the planet. On the PTS the side quests still dropped the old Apprentice pieces, but the main pieces were no longer available. I assume on live those will be replaced with the missing pieces of Korriban gear.

The Korriban heroics continued to reward Requisitioned gear (which matches the quest gear from Dromund Kaas). I did not run any flashpoints at that level, so I do not know if they currently drop the same gear or not.

Quick primer to current leveling gear:


The starter planets have 2 gear sets per class. Some are reskins, some modified reskins, some unique. They are bind on pickup. Toward the end of the story you receive a modifiable legacy weapon, which was still being rewarded on the PTS.

Each planet has a set of green gear for each class acquired from quests. (for example Requisitioned) The main pieces are from the class quests, but the rest are in planetary arcs and side quests. They are bind on pick up. Most of the time the sets are the same for all advanced classes, but on occasion there are differences.

Heroics & conquest rewards have matching blue gear based on your level. They match the level appropriate planet. (for example Requisitioned MK-2 for lvl 10-16) Also bind on pickup. It can be extremely difficult to collect sets from heroics since the rewards are random and leveling is so fast. Heroics do not have the matching main hand weapons, only off hands.

Flashpoints drop purple sets that match about half of the leveling sets. For example Requisitioned MK-3, but not Tarnished) They are bind on equip and do include the main hands. You will be lucky to get one or two pieces before out-leveling the level bracket, but since they are boe they can be bought on the GTN. ( I thought TorFashion had a list, but Exile changed the format awhile ago and I can't find it. MK-3s: Requisitioned, Aftermarket, Decorated, Thermal, Crystalline, Fractured & Yavin.)
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Ruvalie
11.30.2021 , 11:36 AM | #6
Can someone from Bioware please answer this? If you're going to make cosmetic items unobtainable, especially such a large quantity of them, this should at least be announced in advance. Making outfits is an important part of the game to some of us.

Right now I'm assuming the worst and planning to delete the game on Dec. 14.

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SteveTheCynic
11.30.2021 , 01:09 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Ruvalie View Post
Can someone from Bioware please answer this? If you're going to make cosmetic items unobtainable, especially such a large quantity of them, this should at least be announced in advance. Making outfits is an important part of the game to some of us.

Right now I'm assuming the worst and planning to delete the game on Dec. 14.
Curious... Why didn't you delete the game when 6.0 launched with no way to acquire the Galactic Command Crate cosmetic shells? Thirty two sets of (mostly) nice-looking armour, and a weapon to go with each set, all BoP.

Or, indeed, the Eternal Commander MK-1X, Iokath MK-X and GEMINI MK-X sets from Galactic Command? (Eternal Commander MK-3 is still available in the Master's Datacron armour bundle.)
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Ruvalie
11.30.2021 , 02:18 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by SteveTheCynic View Post
Curious... Why didn't you delete the game when 6.0 launched with no way to acquire the Galactic Command Crate cosmetic shells? Thirty two sets of (mostly) nice-looking armour, and a weapon to go with each set, all BoP.

Or, indeed, the Eternal Commander MK-1X, Iokath MK-X and GEMINI MK-X sets from Galactic Command? (Eternal Commander MK-3 is still available in the Master's Datacron armour bundle.)
I only started playing during KoTET and didn't reach max level until after the release of Onslaught, so I actually wasn't even aware of the existence of the Galactic Command sets until after they were gone. I found out at the same time that Bioware promised to add them to a vendor, although it's taken them a long time to keep that promise. If they add the leveling sets to a vendor I'll be fine with that as well. Not that any of this is relevant, since they still ought to communicate these changes regardless of anything I do or don't do.

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JackieKo
11.30.2021 , 02:32 PM | #9 Click here to go to the next staff post in this thread. Next  
Quote: Originally Posted by Craig_Mitchell View Post
I've heard rumors that the current levelling gear (Apprentice/Accurate/Cunning, Requisitioned, Tarnished, Aftermarket, Carbon-Scored, Decorated, Battle-Scarred, Toxic, Thermal, Unleashed, Visionary, Corellian, Crystalline, Fractured, Yavin) will be scrapped/made unobtainable with 7.0

Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? Some of these sets have rather unique skins or colors that are nigh (or completely) unobtainable otherwise.
Hi Craig_Mitchell,

I'm confirming that what you've listed will not be available. However, most, if not all of their appearances are going to be re-used for the new gear coming in 7.0. If there happens to be some that are not available, we would like to bring those back in the future.

With the creation of Combat Styles, changes needed to be made to the gear rewarded during your Class Story to ensure players would always receive a useable item that matched the proper appearance. To solve this we've created a new set of leveling gear that uses an appearance based on your Origin Story. So if you are a Smuggler playing with a Sniper Combat Style, you will receive gear that fits Smuggler visuals. Gear appearances are unique per Origin Story and per Planet you visit. This new gear will be Bind on Pickup.

As a note, a future goal we would like to achieve is to add cosmetic versions of all Origin Story visuals to planetary vendors as Bind to Legacy items so players can have more freedom to customize themselves or their companions.
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Ruvalie
11.30.2021 , 02:54 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by JackieKo View Post
Hi Craig_Mitchell,

I'm confirming that what you've listed will not be available. However, most, if not all of their appearances are going to be re-used for the new gear coming in 7.0. If there happens to be some that are not available, we would like to bring those back in the future.

With the creation of Combat Styles, changes needed to be made to the gear rewarded during your Class Story to ensure players would always receive a useable item that matched the proper appearance. To solve this we've created a new set of leveling gear that uses an appearance based on your Origin Story. So if you are a Smuggler playing with a Sniper Combat Style, you will receive gear that fits Smuggler visuals. Gear appearances are unique per Origin Story and per Planet you visit. This new gear will be Bind on Pickup.

As a note, a future goal we would like to achieve is to add cosmetic versions of all Origin Story visuals to planetary vendors as Bind to Legacy items so players can have more freedom to customize themselves or their companions.
Thank you for letting us know what is going to happen with these sets. I understand the reason for the change so that you can tie the appearances to origin story rather than combat style, but I hope that you really do reuse all of the same appearances for the new gear so that none of them become unobtainable. Adding cosmetic versions to the planetary vendors is a great idea and I hope you implement this sooner rather than later.

Is there any chance that the new gear will avoid the bug which makes the current sets display incorrectly when worn by companions in certain cutscenes?