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In Preparation for 6.0 - what are the TOP things to do
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10.18.2019 , 11:28 AM | #121
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
You will lose the set bonus if all you have is the armoring. They're not going to give anyone any shells or move any set bonus from the armoring to the shell its currently in. Otherwise they'd have literally countless numbers of combinations of various armor shells and armorings to keep track of a bonus. I thought it was implicit in all the times I've posted in a dozen threads now, including my reply to you, that if you want to keep your set bonus, you will have to acquire new shells. The only set I could forsee the Devs "giving" or "reimbursing" or "compensating" anyone would be the Victorious Pioneer DvL experience set, and that will likely require a customer service ticket and/or a lot of passionate but civil forum posts.

If you want to get the set bonus back, you have three non-mutually exclusive options, from now until Tuesday morning when the servers go down:
1.) Spend Command Tokens to buy 230 shells (Eternal Commander Mk-3 I believe is the official name)
2.) Save any 244 or higher shells you get in tier 4 galactic command crates (Gemini MK-2)
3.) Loot Unassembled Eternal Commander MK-5 tokens (rating 236) from story mode ops and turn those in, with command tokens.
All three of those options are pretty unacceptable from this players perspective.

Putting it into context for the reasoning behind this, if I choose to level a new character I have available a set bonus from 50-70, however without the original armour in pretty much every single case due it being in legacy bound armour.

The alternative solution BioWare could have applied, which would have been far fairer for every single player in the game (both newcomers and old players alike), is making all the previous set bonuses available (level 50+) on a set of vendors on fleets for credits (new credit sink, viable solution to the problem presented). They wouldn't even really need a whole new area, they could have re-purposed all of the vendors selling green amourings / mods / enhancements for level 50+.

This comes across as an inelegant solution to the problem of removing set bonuses and perhaps doesn't take into account all aspects of why players collect set bonuses.
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10.18.2019 , 11:59 AM | #122
Late last night while thinking about the Conquest change mentioned. Why not keep the point totals the same for this weeks conquest however do not give us the 6.0 materials for this week only. Give us the same options we have in 5.10 now. Start the new conquest Fresh for 6.0 next week after it launches.

Another words Material bag gives us CMT's, and encrypted memory cores this week, or the option for the encryptions, and also give us the Superior resource matrix instead of what 6.0 will give out.
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10.18.2019 , 12:01 PM | #123
No mentions anywhere about those purple Supply Crates that you used to give to your Alliance Specialists for some bit of extra loot. Are they gonna get converted away as well? Should I spend a day logging on every toon I got and swap them for loots asap or are they gonna remain as is?
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10.18.2019 , 12:15 PM | #124 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Hey all,

Alliance Crates are unchanged in Onslaught. You will still get them from Heroics and can turned them in as you did previously.

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ZionHalcyon
10.18.2019 , 12:30 PM | #125
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey all,

Alliance Crates are unchanged in Onslaught. You will still get them from Heroics and can turned them in as you did previously.

-eric
If they are unchanged, does this then mean we won't be earning gear for completing Heroic Missions, because it'll be Alliance Crates instead? Doesn't that take away from the concept of gearing while playing whatever content we want?

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10.18.2019 , 12:44 PM | #126
Quote: Originally Posted by ZionHalcyon View Post
If they are unchanged, does this then mean we won't be earning gear for completing Heroic Missions, because it'll be Alliance Crates instead? Doesn't that take away from the concept of gearing while playing whatever content we want?
Maybe he means this is what we'll get up to 70 and whatever 6.0 gives will drop 70-75?

Or maybe I'm hallucinating and being overly optimistic. I thought I was over thay problem.

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10.18.2019 , 12:53 PM | #127
Quote: Originally Posted by black_pyros View Post
I agree that Amplifiers are huge credit sink. Crafting is not a huge credit sink, merely a 8% GTN fee when bying mats from other players, the rest 92% of credits are simply transfered from one player to another- that's not a credit sink.
Crafting is a credit sink not just for sending out missions but the new white mats come in green and blue as well and are expensive compared to the rest. Add on top the entry fee of a half million per craft and it adds up minimum to have the all is eight million. Add on fuel(white mats) and then gathering time {Time is money, friend} and you have a credit sink which a non crafter does not see.

If augments are going to be as hard and expensive to craft for mk11 then the prices you pay now for mk10 are a drop in the bucket.

Your set bonus will vanish and not be transferred to the skin you are using it will be on any previous set gear that you acquired. Whether level fifty all the way to 258. I just hope they do not miss any single piece. Buying 230 gear is a good plan if you have no skins left.

Augmentation.

It will only be done once per piece.
Most I am sure from the data they have wear the armor they augmented so ever long ago and use the outfitter for the look. There are those that do not use the outfitter as they like only that look and that is the armor they augmented.

Now they will have to augment the new set gear they get and use the outfitter. Once that set piece is augmented that is it. No more augmenting. A new set piece and yes you will have to augment it. Once you have a set then you can pass it around with augments to other alts if it is a general set so works with many alts.

To be honest they could have taken away all gear and just given you slots to fill on your character sheet to put the armoring, mods, and enhancements in. (This would give a new meaning to fighting naked.)

That the crate question has been answered is nice, but the jilting of the community is still going to sting.

Just think that the new gearing will be easy and hard at the same time. All new gearing levels are no matter what game.

My goal is a BiS set of gear a leveling set I pass around and maybe a healer tank set that I pass around. Four to five sets at most and I do not expect to get it any time soon. I just hope there are no unseen time gates with Tech fragments. That the mat time gates have been completely removed from crafting except for final gear IE 306 or the crafted set bonus.

Expect the worse, hope for the best, settle for something in between. Still, doesn't make me less angry.
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phalczen
10.18.2019 , 01:08 PM | #128
Quote: Originally Posted by Transcendent View Post
Putting it into context for the reasoning behind this, if I choose to level a new character I have available a set bonus from 50-70, however without the original armour in pretty much every single case due it being in legacy bound armour.
You'll have it until level 74. But its a moot point, because you can't trade it to your alts.

I want to make clear that my response to you was not to defend or prosecute BW, simply to inform you of the options. For the record, I'm not keen on the way BW chose to address this either, even though I can guess at the probable logistic challenge. The set boni have names, they are tracked as belonging to certain shells, "Ultimate Exarch Eliminator," "Rakata War Leader," "Masterwork Force Mystic" and so on. Its therefore going to be hard for the Devs to apply/move the set bonus from an armoring to a shell that could be literally anything in the game. Its going to be easier for them to just do a database "search and replace" sort of thing which checks the name of the shell against a list and if it has a certain name it gets such and such bonus. I get what you're saying: make a vendor that sold the blue Gemini MK-2 rating 244 shells or whatever, bound to legacy, that people could use from 50-74. I'd be ok with that.

But, think about it this way. Any player who currently does not have any toon at the LIVE level cap of 70 probably doesn't have a set bonus. I mean, there will be some folks who left the game immediately before 5.0 and maybe all they have are Cyanosure rating 204 tier 1 pvp gear. Or, that poster above who said they had Rakata gear. I'd bet that's a minority of people. I don't think Bioware intends for those characters to be running around in any set bonus other than the DvL Victorious Pioneer (soon to be known as "Darklight's Grace"). Certainly any new player who joins the game after 6.0 won't have access to those set bonuses normally, and I don't think they want people fixating too much on gear that will be obsolete as soon as they hit level cap.

In the end, its 5 levels. Meaning, five levels until the set bonuses don't work anymore. So, its not worth quibbling over.
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10.18.2019 , 01:18 PM | #129
Quote: Originally Posted by KendraP View Post
Maybe he means this is what we'll get up to 70 and whatever 6.0 gives will drop 70-75?

Or maybe I'm hallucinating and being overly optimistic. I thought I was over thay problem.
I hope it works as:

1.) Champions that are in the open world areas, mission spawns, or bonus missions of planetary heroics start dropping the datacron decorations like they used to before 4.0, regardless of character level.
2.) Character Level 50 and above, you start earning locked Alliance Supply Crates, from then until perpetuity, from planetary heroics, as it currently works on LIVE right now.
3.) Above level 75, you ALSO earn whatever you're supposed to earn from Spoils of War. The loot tables aren't replaced, just appended.
4.) [WEEKLY] missions drop special Spoils of War crates with a higher chance at the bonus gear specified here than the crates that drop from dailies.
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10.18.2019 , 01:42 PM | #130
Quote: Originally Posted by phalczen View Post
I hope it works as:

1.) Champions that are in the open world areas, mission spawns, or bonus missions of planetary heroics start dropping the datacron decorations like they used to before 4.0, regardless of character level.
2.) Character Level 50 and above, you start earning locked Alliance Supply Crates, from then until perpetuity, from planetary heroics, as it currently works on LIVE right now.
3.) Above level 75, you ALSO earn whatever you're supposed to earn from Spoils of War. The loot tables aren't replaced, just appended.
4.) [WEEKLY] missions drop special Spoils of War crates with a higher chance at the bonus gear specified here than the crates that drop from dailies.
Somehow i dont think they have reworked the loot system completely so that 1) will happen
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