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3.0 information today?? PLEASE!!!!!!!!
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Darth_Wicked
09.29.2014 , 04:06 PM | #271
Quote: Originally Posted by Kremsau View Post
This is what occupied my mind while reading the excuse. How does the presentation of information require multiple weeks? That is, unless critical decisions had yet to be made, which is more troubling than the lack of update.
3.0 in mid-January.

Major supply lines are stretched thin and Revan's fleet ran out of hypermatter to fuel his Capital-sized ships.

Tragedy.

I blame Torvix on Labor Valley.

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Reno_Tarshil
09.29.2014 , 04:07 PM | #272
Quote: Originally Posted by Tatile View Post
Or what? Alderaan will blow up?
Please let this happen.
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Deewe
09.29.2014 , 04:07 PM | #273
Quote: Originally Posted by EricMusco View Post
Hey folks,

First, I want to apologize for the last minute nature of getting you the information on the delay. I know many of you are frustrated that Tait and I didn't mention anything on the stream on Friday. Simply put, the studio was doing everything possible to still announce all of the details today or tomorrow, in September. Unfortunately, as of today, we moved the timeline back and so we told you once that decision was made. I realize "a couple of weeks sounds ominous," but know that everyone is hard at work to get you this information as soon as we can (which will hopefully be sooner, rather than later).

We are all really excited to share details of our next expansion with you. I know you are all eager to hear details, any details, and we will get you all of the details as soon as we can. We just want to make sure all of the information is correct before we put it out there.

Thank you again for your patience with this.

-eric
Things changes, we can understand that.

However:
Quote: Originally Posted by BruceMaclean View Post
Soon™! We are holding the announcement back a bit to add something really nice for subscribers, and we’ll be revealing all shortly - a couple of weeks at the latest.
Holding back a major announcement because you want to add a topping for subs does not makes sense.

You still could have made the 3.0 announcement and eventually hint at a future reveal for sub in the upcoming weeks.

So now everyone wonders what's really the issue there.
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Tatile
09.29.2014 , 04:07 PM | #274
Quote: Originally Posted by Darth_Wicked View Post
3.0 in mid-January.
And people said I was unduly pessimistic for not expecting it to be out this year...

(March.)

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Phatbeard
09.29.2014 , 04:08 PM | #275
Quote: Originally Posted by SebastiaanZ View Post
Yes I did ... so what? I don't care. I have every right to vent my rage and disappointment towards the Devs in any way I like.
You are also free to wallow melodramatically about this First World Tragedy of the most egregious kind. I'll call the Hague!

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Darth_Wicked
09.29.2014 , 04:09 PM | #276
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And people said I was unduly pessimistic for not expecting it to be out this year...

(March.)
I said earlier this year the expansion was bound to be delayed.

Then Bioware stepped in, said it would still be released this year and I was overjoyed, happy to be wrong.

Now, we have Mr. Bruce saying they're "committed" to launch the expansion this year still.

See the wording?

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DOHboy
09.29.2014 , 04:10 PM | #277
Quote: Originally Posted by SebastiaanZ View Post
Fine don't tell us details ... but at least throw us another friggin bone. Can't be that bad can it? Something you can confirm? Like the level cap increase, or the new planet?

SOMETHING! We have been waiting patiently, and now you just pissed off a lot of people.
a lot...so like 4?

they already confirmed level increase. along with class changes, and along to go with that crafting levels.

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SebastiaanZ
09.29.2014 , 04:11 PM | #278
Pushing the announcement back a few days is acceptable, weeks is just unacceptable.
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Infernixx
09.29.2014 , 04:11 PM | #279
Quote: Originally Posted by SebastiaanZ View Post
Fine don't tell us details ... but at least throw us another friggin bone. Can't be that bad can it? Something you can confirm? Like the level cap increase, or the new planet?

SOMETHING! We have been waiting patiently, and now you just pissed off a lot of people.
The only person pissed off here is you and it's both hilarious and entirely predictable.
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Infernixx nailed it. This is correct.
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EricMusco
09.29.2014 , 04:12 PM | #280 This is the last staff post in this thread.  
Quote: Originally Posted by justinplainview View Post
Non sarcastic question: Your community team grew during this content cycle. A 3.0 announcement is, judging by your past history of announcing content for this game, going to be a ~500 word press release with an image tease, or it may be a 2 minute producer video with a breakdown that may be the equivalent of 1.5 pages in length. Either way, I don't understand how you could, on Friday, think you would be ready for the announcement, then change your mind on Monday. Were you more ahead of the curve and then suddenly regressed? As for information being correct, are you referring to the really nice thing for subscribers? Because you could literally omit that information to keep everything correct, or just mention at the tail end that subscribers or preorders will get a perk or perks to be named later. You make it sound like a 1 page cover letter announcement requires the entire dev staff to get the phrasing right. This expac is supposed to be out "this year." And it hasn't been announced yet.

If you delay the ANNOUNCEMENT by a few weeks, that implies you will have 2.5 months left in the calendar year for testing. But out of that 2.5 months, MOST of the testing will be in the first 2-3 weeks. After that, you're implementing changes. So It makes me wonder how you'd think this timeline seems wholly acceptable. It's going to seem rushed, regardless of actual polish, because you're delaying the announcement, which pushes up the time between said announcement and release. Is the pre-order window going to be the equivalent of a double XP week where you have 5-7 days total to pre-order? Because the window between this announcement and the release, if it follows the "this year" timeline, is going to be very small.
This is a great question (or questions?), that I think are on a lot of folks minds. As you can imagine I can't go too deep into the rabbit hole in talking about our internal processes but I can give it a go.

In short, the process we go through internally to announce something as big as an expansion is actually quite complex and extensive. Although you are correct in that the end process may be a video, a landing page with some copy, etc. the process to get there requires a large amount of moving parts across multiple teams. Aside from just the assets and webpages there is arguably one of the most important aspects of these types of announcements, the game!

By the time we announce we have to have a concrete idea of what will be coming in the game with the expansion, what types of perks we might give our subscribers, etc. Unfortunately with so many moving parts, we can sometimes run into the scenario like we did today. If we are not 100% confident in what we are going to put out, for a multitude of possible reasons, it can lead to a delay of announcement.

I would caution not to read too deep into what I said above. It is somewhere in the cog of those moving parts that this delay happened, but ultimately our goal remains the same: to get you as many details about this expansion as soon as we can!

-eric
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