zebrawizard Posted March 9, 2012 Share Posted March 9, 2012 yea ion jolts seem to be messed up. still took the point because i didnt know what else to put it in. For HM, i tank with improved riot strike, as the 6 second riot strike means you can interrupt a spell from ever being casted by a boss, as it will lock out for 4 seconds, and your riot strike will just come off cooldown while they try and cast the spell again, for me that mitigates alot more damage than some extra shield %. http://www.torhead.com/skill-calc#801GorrdoroGZMsrbo.1 tried without gut, but i felt the extra damage move filled the gap sometimes. (and its nice to have another ability ) also i disagree with using sticky grenade, the damage is too low to be worth 2 ammo. id rather use the extra ammo and whack out a pulse cannon vs groups, as its the most damage-ammo move we have, not to mention we can recharge ammo whilst its channeling. another thing, i dont agree gut is better than energy blast. how can it ever be? energy blast GIVES an energy cell, meaning you can dish out more damage. Gut costs 2 energy meaning you get less chance to use abilities.. not to mention gut can only be used every 15 seconds to be effective. Even though gut offers more damage than energy blast, is that extra damage worth 3 ammo potential by using energy blast instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ricktur Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 why isnt this a sticky any more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_gideon Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Because it's not a good guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RundoSim Posted August 25, 2012 Share Posted August 25, 2012 Not that it's not a good guide. It's outdated and hasn't been kept up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kytea Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Not that it's not a good guide. It's outdated and hasn't been kept up. Good point OP does say "last update 20-Feb-2012" Would be nice if a good vanguard tank grabbed the relay stick and re-started an up-to-date Vanguard tanking guide. I just rolled one and am progressing, I'd be looking forward to a new guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space_mechanic Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Thanks for the good guide! Anticipating 2.0 updated version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justcae Posted April 25, 2013 Share Posted April 25, 2013 Let this thread die. There is so much bad information here, some of it is just flat out wrong. Even at the time of its original posting. If you are a newbie Vanguard tank do not live and die by this guide at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
space_mechanic Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 If you are a newbie Vanguard tank do not live and die by this guide at all. Well, of course I do not. Cos I prefer my own experience after all, still this one was helpful. Could you suggest more actual and better guide? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKitty Posted April 26, 2013 Share Posted April 26, 2013 If anyone has a good guide I would be interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Guide has been updated for new content. I'll be making another one relating to a new topic shortly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslampigduex Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Are you guys legit arguing dropping EB for Gut... you are aware you are a tank and EB adds 25% absorb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Ahh yea you caught me in the middle of updating that section. Next time read slower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayakin_Solaris Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Not convinced by the skill tree. I'd dump the following personally: Defensive Measures - this is really a PvP ability; don't think it has any benefit in PvENeural overload - you hardly ever do Ion Cell damageScrap Satchel - again more useful in PvP rather than PvE. ES is a relatively expensive talent, so only really worth using the 2 free charges you get from Storm. Should definitely have 3 points in Focused Impact as High Impact Bolt should be a key part of the rotation, especially as given Supercharged Ion Cell it does damage to several targets against mobs. I'd also personally put the other two points into Heavy Stock as again Stockstrike should be a key part of the rotation so doing added damage will increase DPS and maintain threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Not convinced by the skill tree. I'd dump the following personally: Defensive Measures - this is really a PvP ability; don't think it has any benefit in PvENeural overload - you hardly ever do Ion Cell damageScrap Satchel - again more useful in PvP rather than PvE. ES is a relatively expensive talent, so only really worth using the 2 free charges you get from Storm. Should definitely have 3 points in Focused Impact as High Impact Bolt should be a key part of the rotation, especially as given Supercharged Ion Cell it does damage to several targets against mobs. I'd also personally put the other two points into Heavy Stock as again Stockstrike should be a key part of the rotation so doing added damage will increase DPS and maintain threat. Good constructive criticism I love it thanks. I'll try that out tonight and see how it plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted July 17, 2013 Author Share Posted July 17, 2013 I tried the spec last night and I realized that I linked the wrong torhead skill build in the guide. Typically I use a build similar to that. At this point I've been experimenting going deeper into the tactics tree to get tactical tools and augmented cells to try other things. I've also been working on pvp hybrid specs that are decent enough for tanking flashpoints but still powerful in pvp. If anyone sees anything that is not correct or think they want to add something please let me know. Lets use this guide to help build a better community of tanks. Be constructive and try to not flame others if they make suggestions. Remember don't feed the trolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KopetanchegX Posted August 1, 2013 Share Posted August 1, 2013 Thanks for guide. Found small mistake. Bioanalysis isnt crafting skill, biochem is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulyWALNUTS Posted August 3, 2013 Share Posted August 3, 2013 Vanguard Rotations Single Target Rotation Storm> SS> HS> HIB> HS> IP> HS> SS> HS> SG> HS> EB> HS> Repeat Powertech Rotations Single Target Rotation Jet Charge> SS> HS> HIB> HS> IP> HS> SS> HS> SG> HS> EB> HS> Repeat Your Powertech rotation isn't translated; it's using the Vanguard terminology. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernRod Posted August 9, 2013 Share Posted August 9, 2013 Thanks for this guide.....very helpful to better understand my role as a power-tech tank Are you guys aware of any articles that help you understand more of the ops interface while in real time mode? For example, on how to be able to monitor aggro, threat, and overall stats of the team via the GUI, besides just using your eyes. Not sure if there are icons, bars, or even colors that help identify what is happening. Some battles can get messy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Thanks for guide. Found small mistake. Bioanalysis isnt crafting skill, biochem is. Awesome thanks! I corrected it in the guide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Your Powertech rotation isn't translated; it's using the Vanguard terminology. Oops! I corrected it just now. Please let me know if you see anything else like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted August 19, 2013 Author Share Posted August 19, 2013 Thanks for this guide.....very helpful to better understand my role as a power-tech tank Are you guys aware of any articles that help you understand more of the ops interface while in real time mode? For example, on how to be able to monitor aggro, threat, and overall stats of the team via the GUI, besides just using your eyes. Not sure if there are icons, bars, or even colors that help identify what is happening. Some battles can get messy. I just added a section about Threat to the guide. I'm not sure it's what your looking for but I do think it will help you understand how it works more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hockaday Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 I wouldn't suggest those specs...both look very bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escaflownae Posted August 26, 2013 Author Share Posted August 26, 2013 I wouldn't suggest those specs...both look very bad. Actually , I agree with you the talent builds I made arn't there. I'll upload them again I guess something changed because those builds have 8 points left over and arn't even filled out correctly. Thank for bringing that to my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wetslampigduex Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Why does this have a sticky, its not updated for 2.0. It seems to be "ok" for pre 2.0 but not now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bzallen Posted May 25, 2014 Share Posted May 25, 2014 One huge point that was glossed over is the fact that Energy Blast is one of your best defensive abilities. Threat generation doesn`t even factor into taking it or not, just the fact that you get a 25% increase to your shield absorb makes this a must for tanking in PVE. It should be on your bar and on cooldown constantly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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