Would a $1300 PC run TOR "fast"? Yes, yes it would.

 

So what concern is it of yours if I want to pay more for my own version of that same "fast"?

 

You worry about your budget, I'll worry about mine. Fact of the matter is, Mac hardware is more than capable to crush TOR. 'Nuff said.

Like i said in my post, its none of my concern. But for those who do not know that they are paying a lot more for nothing more than a logo, they might be happy to know. Not everyone wants to pay an extra 700 dollars for a unibody.

Like i said in my post, its none of my concern. But for those who do not know that they are paying a lot more for nothing more than a logo, they might be happy to know. Not everyone wants to pay an extra 700 dollars for no reason.

It's much, much more than a logo.

There's a difference between being cheap and having value. Cheap is easy. PCs are cheap. The Mac provides value. For my dollar, Macs are underpriced.

Would a $1300 PC run TOR "fast"? Yes, yes it would.

 

So what concern is it of yours if I want to pay more for my own version of that same "fast"?

 

You worry about your budget, I'll worry about mine. Fact of the matter is, Mac hardware is more than capable to crush TOR. 'Nuff said.

He was just smashing the points others have made so far thinking MACs are somehow better because they cost more, they simply are not. He even stated he doesn't care what you buy, it's good to inform people that don't know. Honestly I personally have no clue why one would want to spend twice as much for the exact same hardware, but to each his own.

He was just smashing the points others have made so far thinking MACs are somehow better because they cost more, they simply are not. He even stated he doesn't care what you buy, it's good to inform people that don't know. Honestly I personally have no clue why one would want to spend twice as much for the exact same hardware, but to each his own.

Got it. PCs are better because they cost less.

Thread Topic: Do you support a Mac OS X client in Star Wars the Old Republic?

It's towards the lower half of my priority list. It's nice for those that exclusively want or have to use Mac OS X. But I think there are features and tasks that would provide a better yield for the community and potential audience.

It's much, much more than a logo.

 

There's a difference between being cheap and having value. Cheap is easy. PCs are cheap. The Mac provides value. For my dollar, Macs are underpriced.

So another words just a logo, value is in the eye of the beholder there guy. Your just supporting the same product from a different company for twice the price. Which honestly to me that is much less value, exactly half as much as a PC. Value is generally measured by price + performance together.

It's much, much more than a logo.

 

There's a difference between being cheap and having value. Cheap is easy. PCs are cheap. The Mac provides value. For my dollar, Macs are underpriced.

I do not even know where to start.

1.) Macs are not more expensive, they simply offer less performance per dollar than a PC. There are plenty of PCs that can exceed mac prices.

2.) What do you mean value? it performs less functions at slower speeds. That is less valuable.

It's much, much more than a logo.

 

There's a difference between being cheap and having value. Cheap is easy. PCs are cheap. The Mac provides value. For my dollar, Macs are underpriced.

Lol Apple Fanboy. The desktop I build has much better value.

It's towards the lower half of my priority list. It's nice for those that exclusively want or have to use Mac OS X. But I think there are features and tasks that would provide a better yield for the community and potential audience.

Nice to see a rational argument that's actually on topic. In response I would wonder if the potential increase in playerbase due to making an OS X client available (and the resulting increase in revenue) would actually lend itself to a better player experience and help facilitate rolling out improvements and enhancements faster to the entire comunity.

The fact that they've publicly announced they're considering it shows the idea has some merit.

I play though bootcamp and it's fine. The only bad thing is buying windows....that made my stomach churn a little.

The entire reason to buy a mac is the OS. It's fantastic and worth every extra penny the hardware might cost.

Windows 7 has "borrowed" a lot of OSX's ideas and innovations, it's much better than any Windows before it, but I have several thousand dollars worth of software invested in my mac. No chance of switching. A second computer just to game? Maybe, but then I'd really feel like a chump. I just spent $700+ to play games? I might as well move back into my moms basement at that point.

I play though bootcamp and it's fine. The only bad thing is buying windows....that made my stomach churn a little.

 

The entire reason to buy a mac is the OS. It's fantastic and worth every extra penny the hardware might cost.

 

Windows 7 has "borrowed" a lot of OSX's ideas and innovations, it's much better than any Windows before it, but I have several thousand dollars worth of software invested in my mac. No chance of switching. A second computer just to game? Maybe, but then I'd really feel like a chump. I just spent $700+ to play games? I might as well move back into my moms basement at that point.

Pretty sure a lot of people just own PC's to play games, I do and am 25 . I don't feel like a chump, I am a nerd and proud of it. I do on occasion use this for school now, but I originally bought it fully intending to only play games. It's no different than buying a Flat screen TV that costs $700, everyone enjoys different forms of entertainment .

The software that you would use for these purposes is the same. And since the PC is likely to be twice as fast at the same price point, video editing would be that much faster on a PC.

This is somewhat misleading. As a professional post-production specialist, saying that a Windows box would be faster simply because of what's in the box is very, very wrong. There are many, MANY different working parts that go into post that must be factored in order to determine what the best working process might be, the least of which being that a lot of clients won't hire you in certain markets based solely on the fact that you're not an Apple house.

Truth be told, as far as business decisions go, most post houses use both PCs and Macs, as there are tools on each that do the job better for certain professionals (not to mention contractors - each has a different toolset they're use to, and you have to be prepared for that).

Which brings me to the topic at hand. If it's a sound business decision and BioWare/EA would make a larger profit and more subscriptions by having a Mac client, then by all means, develop it. So, I support it, but I don't think it should be a primary focus at the moment, as Bootcamp is working for the time being.

Do you support a Mac OS X client for SWTOR?

 

This thread is for discussing support for an OS X client for Star Wars The Old Republic. Please keep comments related to that topic.

 

This is not a Bootcamp thread.

 

This is not a Mac Vs. PC thread.

Why wouldn't I?

I whole-heartedly support it. More players is a good thing.

I don´t claim to have any solid stats weather or not there are a lot of osx only gamers out there.

I would imagine however that most people who are "serious" about gaming (ie those willing to pay a monthly fee for a game) don´t have windows via bootcamp or normal to an overwhelming percentage.

So the number of players gained would be minimal in my opinion, it would be more of a convenience thing for a smaller subset of the players (< 30%).

If they have devs that absolutely can´t do anything atm then sure do it, but I would rather see those engine devs among others optimize the game further.

So yes, but very low priority.

If Blizzard killed support for the Mac client on WoW, you'd discover that there is a fairly large number of Mac users out there that have no desire to *infect* their machines with anything Windows. Yes, we can run bootcamp, but nothing is nicer than booting up your machine to play a game in the OS that you spend, 99.9% of your time in.

Trust me, Blizzard knows the value of it's Mac customers... it would never have bothered supporting the Mac platform at all if there was no profit in it. And all of their games run on Macs as well as PCs. Imagine that... mutli-platform in the 20th century... who would have thought!