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It is what lasts but it's the story primarily that hooks people in. Without it, it would be tetris. Still fun, but not something that will ignite passionate discussions, imagination etc. Disregarding story component in this MMO is just as dangerous as group-play component.

 

I did say it is the cream. You can't have this pie without cream. It's what makes it so delicious! But, you cannot focus only on making cream and have no pie. Hopefully this tasty comparison makes sense. ;)

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maybe you will manage to fix scaling problems for turrets and walkers... pretty big bug. and fix those intrerupts from trash, pretty annoying, i understand if it is a boss or something, but just stumbling into them you get frozen 10s every fight... For what? is not more difficult, is more annoying

 

and lvl scalling problems. A lot of people still play the old content, also new players too!

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Same here. I still feel sad when I think of the truncated KotFE/ET story and what could have been if we had 3x16 chapters. I do enjoy the story updates we currently get, but I wish they were more substantial and frequent.

I thought the chapter format was excellent; it was the story I was disappointed with. I didn't like my original companions being removed, that they stuck me in carbonite for 5 years and started forcing companions on me that I really didn't want (and keep doing that). It's such a shame even now that it wasn't our love interests who rescued us from the carbonite prison.

I make/play a lot of alts who end up marrying their class LIs and have to take many of them through the whole of kotfe/kotet/iokath just to make sure they get their LIs back without issue. I'd like them to add an option to be able to to autocomplete the chapters I'd rather avoid once the story has been completed in full on at least one of my characters.

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I did say it is the cream. You can't have this pie without cream. It's what makes it so delicious! But, you cannot focus only on making cream and have no pie. Hopefully this tasty comparison makes sense. ;)

 

It does, except what you consider cream, many of consider the pie. SWtOR has a large portion of the playerbase playing for story and nothing but story. Well maybe space barbie too... So your pie is our cream. We repeat the story over and over again, but rarely if ever touch the rest. The rest is more like the Brussels sprouts we have to eat so we can eat our cream pie. Sure, you can force us to eat Brussels sprouts, but expect us to gag and complain the whole time.

 

I thought the chapter format was excellent; it was the story I was disappointed with. I didn't like my original companions being removed, that they stuck me in carbonite for 5 years and started forcing companions on me that I really didn't want (and keep doing that). It's such a shame even now that it wasn't our love interests who rescued us from the carbonite prison.

I make/play a lot of alts who end up marrying their class LIs and have to take many of them through the whole of kotfe/kotet/iokath just to make sure they get their LIs back without issue. I'd like them to add an option to be able to to autocomplete the chapters I'd rather avoid once the story has been completed in full on at least one of my characters.

 

For some reason a lot of people (and I include the developers) can't separate the story from the format the story was delivered in. I loved the chapter format, but the majority of the story was lame. I'm not sad that it got truncated, because I hated the characters and the ridiculous retconning and the less time spent on it the better. However, I really miss having large, frequent story updates. I'd be over the moon if they could give us a quality story in big, regular chunks.

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It does, except what you consider cream, many of consider the pie. SWtOR has a large portion of the playerbase playing for story and nothing but story. Well maybe space barbie too... So your pie is our cream. We repeat the story over and over again, but rarely if ever touch the rest. The rest is more like the Brussels sprouts we have to eat so we can eat our cream pie. Sure, you can force us to eat Brussels sprouts, but expect us to gag and complain the whole time.
And this is where the problem lies. Ideally, both Story and Group-Play players would be catered to equally with frequent & meaty content updates. But with the skeleton crew SWTOR has, it's not gonna happen and it's been a problem almost since the game launched. It was either lots of Dailies/Ops/WZ updates along few & poor quality story updates (Dread Masters/SOR era), or it was heavy story release schedule with little-to-none systemic group-play updates (KOTFEET era). So either 1 group of players was unhappy or the other. Now that content production is a bit more balanced, it seems that EVERYONE is unhappy as no one really recieves that much desired content, neither story players nor the Ops players...
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So the game will still continue getting updates and even a possible expansion, excellent. Thanks for the post Keith.

 

Based on the last few updates, and especially the last expansion (ROFL) why do you think that is a good idea?

 

More of the rubbish we've had recently is not something to be congratulatory about.

 

All The Best

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Based on the last few updates, and especially the last expansion (ROFL) why do you think that is a good idea?

 

More of the rubbish we've had recently is not something to be congratulatory about.

 

All The Best

Well hopefully they listen to criticism about last exp. Even if the 2021 expansion ain't bigger in scope, it should at least be better in quality, especially writing...

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Based on the last few updates, and especially the last expansion (ROFL) why do you think that is a good idea?

 

More of the rubbish we've had recently is not something to be congratulatory about.

 

All The Best

You've seen my posts, you Know I get it, and you Know that I haven't exactly been happy about the development choices that this game has had over the years.

 

Just the same, regardless of how I feel, I Am happy that the game is still alive and will still continue to get updates. Sure I haven't played in over a month, because I've been taking a bit of a break from the game for no particular reason, but I Am happy there is a game that I can come back to, when I do come back (which will be soon).

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Even if the game is alive it is but a shell of it's former self, At this point the amount of work needed to not only salvage this game would be massive.

 

They need to do a proper expansion that works on all areas of play and bring back class storys, as it is now they seem to of basicly given up on even trying to make the story make sence for non force users since at least on the imperal side it seems to focus heavy on the sith and the dark councel where as with the pubs it's mainly the jedi trying to maintane order.

 

Part of the reason for this games success came from those class stories and they were amazing and i was looking forwards to continueing them seeing where my warrior would go with being the wrath or my inquisitor being on the dark councel or what the intelegance brance would do with the data cube we got.

 

Well 2 of those we found out, Warrior basicly just wreck **** in the name of the empire and inquistior lost our seat with a chance of getting it back, agent hell if i know i don't even remember the damn name of the thing it hasn't even been brought up in ages in game.

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You think they might doing another MMO ? There are these rumours about that new Old Republic game that no one knows what's it going to be....

 

The only salvation I see for this game is moving on to SWTOR 2 or something similar. I doubt they will update the engine of a 10 year old game, but who knows. We shall see... If they already said they have plansfor 2021 that is good news that something is going to happen.

 

I suppose it could mean that the 2021 ten year anniversary is the next expansion. But that would mean no expansion for 2 years. :(

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I suppose it could mean that the 2021 ten year anniversary is the next expansion. But that would mean no expansion for 2 years. :(

 

2 years is the expectation of time between expansions. WoW does that, FFXIV does that.

 

Only TESO seems to be doing a different model. But i wonder under how much stress the developers are under to push one expansion each year...

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2 years is the expectation of time between expansions. WoW does that, FFXIV does that.

 

Only TESO seems to be doing a different model. But i wonder under how much stress the developers are under to push one expansion each year...

 

With the same pitiful amount of content? I find that hard to believe.

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Awesome stuff! I hope the 1 on 1 moments aren't super short. I'll be happy regardless, but it'd be real nice to have something a little more lengthy.

 

I like this story deployment setup too. I loved how KotFE was deployed (man I wish we had gotten the whole trilogy). This one has been nice too.

 

I'm enjoying the story and looking forward to what comes next! I'd like to have more story instances where our companions have a huge thing going on. We got one with SCORPIO. That was cool. We had one with Kira and some with Scourge, and are getting more with her and Scourge. Especially since a lot of returning companions didn't get what they should have when KotET and whatever the third one was got squished together :mad::(. And more Scions. Please. Make that pay off since as of this point that build up has basically gone nowhere.

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There's always viagra.

 

Viagra for writers block ??? … maybe ??

 

Actually to tell you the truth... IMO the writers do pretty good (for the most part) given what they have to shove into a two minute slot ! Sooo yeah … here's hoping that the development team is not taking offense when we suggest that more time … (consequently money budgeted ) to companions in general.

 

Something needs to inspire them to come up for more than two minutes worth of stuff for companions.

 

And I'd have to say that most of the negativity that many are feeling right now stims from the 6.0 PTS … pleading with the team … then being promptly ignored.

 

For me … I'd just like to see some of the original ideas (such as interactions with companions) be restored and maybe developed into something really nice.

 

Granted … there will need to be some changes.. More than likely the number of companions available to each class.

 

No I have no idea as to how the development team would prefer to handle that. I leave that up to them. They have demonstrated that if it is a subject that they really like … they can and will do an outstanding job. On the other hand if it is a subject that the team feels "pressured into" from the community … well … let's just say that things get a bit frustrating for everyone concerned.

 

I do look forward to the future of the game. I really do. That said: there are several things that I am concerned about and will continue to watch more closely as time progresses.

 

My first choice would be to try to keep a better more positive spirit about the matter … call it cautious optimism (I would suppose) … but that is about as honest as I know how to be regarding the entire matter of the game.

 

Edited to clear up point made about companions.

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And we're back to the absolute radio silence that is absolutely deafening. I am deeply disappointed. The end of roadmaps should be accompanied by increased smaller scale plans or I feel you are simply trying not to tell us anything so as to avoid the furor.

 

I accept that there are things you cannot do; what I feel is unforgivable is the fact that you refuse to have Mr Musco communicate with us. Seriously, how did he need extra help when he fails so miserably at managing this community? What is the extra help doing, precisely? Apparently neither community managing nor assistant community managing involve interacting with said community.

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And we're back to the absolute radio silence that is absolutely deafening. I am deeply disappointed.

 

Come on now, after all these years, the one thing that is a given is that there won't be even the smallest acceptable amount of communication from the devs on this board. It's the one thing that we can all rely on. The one constant. :D I left disappointment (on this matter) behind years ago. ;)

 

Ontopic... meh.

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Come on now, after all these years, the one thing that is a given is that there won't be even the smallest acceptable amount of communication from the devs on this board. It's the one thing that we can all rely on. The one constant. :D I left disappointment (on this matter) behind years ago. ;)

 

Ontopic... meh.

 

I myself was saying that they were doing better a while ago. I can only presume the increased communication resulted in them having to read some mean things so they decided to just stop talking to us.

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:) Increased communications didn't really work out the way BioWare wanted; Infact it was alot of B***hing, it was. That was a *Start though, communicating idea's and thoughts back and forth. Much of what's said here seems to fall on deaf ears though Not returning as Faction lackey's, Companion time and ...More Communicating. Everything requires Money , Resources and "Time on Project", I would guess those are why these things are why 6.0 was short and no Companion time. The Expansion story was good just short and limited the same way the Zakuul story was.
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:) Increased communications didn't really work out the way BioWare wanted; Infact it was alot of B***hing, it was. That was a *Start though, communicating idea's and thoughts back and forth. Much of what's said here seems to fall on deaf ears though Not returning as Faction lackey's, Companion time and ...More Communicating. Everything requires Money , Resources and "Time on Project", I would guess those are why these things are why 6.0 was short and no Companion time. The Expansion story was good just short and limited the same way the Zakuul story was.

 

 

Theres always going to be someone complaining. It is, after all, impossible to please everyone, and people who are happy are probably not here glorifying them but playing the game.

 

There is also the problem of different people have different wants and desires. For example, you mention companion time. Outside of kira and scourge, I personally couldnt really care less. What does infuriate me is the lack of scaling to 75 , which seems to bother no one but me for some reason I cant quite understand.

 

But what makes me mad above all else is their total lack of caring. Again, how could musco possibly need more help when he seemingly ignores the community hes supposedly managing.

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