I think both sides are right, and before you all nerdrage and say both sides cant be right, ever hear of a soft opening, stores,clubs,restaurants do it all the time, the open for business on a specific day, get the ball rolling then sometimes shortly after week, maybe two later they have their "GRAND Opening" the ESB is their soft opening, yes beta does things to stress it, but software and hardware are finicky we all know this and there's nothing like the strain of full bore throttling of thousands trying to get in at once. so they adopted this strategy. do I wish it wasnt so, yes, do I wish I was in right now instead of reading through forums of course. does that change the fact we're still here and no amount of griping is going to change that till tomorrow no..

just playing devils advocate here,.. because still waiting, but I ordered from Origin, which is EA, EA and Bioware are one now, and when you order from Origin you pay UPfront so yes Bioware does have my money and has had my money for months, that said now I'll wait for my email

I realize its only been 3 1/2 hours and to my knowledge a 3rd wave hasn't launched yet, but on the completely ludicrous side, I'm surprised people haven't been ************ they want to stagger their payment to BW, saying such nonsense was, well if they cant get me in @ the 0 hour why should I have to pay them all upfront, I'll stagger my payment how do you like that Mr. BW. silly yes I know but sometimes I would be nice to subject companys to what they expect of us, and no I'm not ************ @ BW I'm really just a bit sleep deprived and thought this was funny

not to aggro people here, heh I would have ordered from gamestop walked in they told me oops as a corp we're out of pre-order codes at the moment so I went home ordered on origin and got my code and entered it no problems, which is why I'm wondering what all this origin hate is? of course I did order mine several months ago (sept) so dont know

roughly 2 hours wave 2 just went out