"this game needs merc treads" "STOP KILLING ME (in thepvp area), I AM TRYING TO FARM THE AMMO BOXES JERK" "LTP" (then camps turret for def. points) "Jumping up and down can wipe pvp agro, if you play ANY mmo, you would know this" "Why the heck would you give a sniper a knock back THAT SLOWS, Now they can just sit there and shoot me...thats just DUMB."

just go to illum... problem solved *sarcasm*

Thread bumped +1 for catching...

I was told i would be reported for "harassment" and they would make it vague enough to cause a ban. (could happen i suppose since there where about 40 plus people farming) I screen shot it, just in case... then went off and kept switching points on them, and called my clan to kill them as they run through central to farm @ south point. half of them... /ignore

I am one of those people that will be reported. This is what I was told on illum when trying to pvp. "dont cap areas, and disrupt our farming or both reps and imps that are trying to farm will report you... Dont be a **** rage." whats worse? they are now farming pvp warzones for the daily/weekly the same way using pre mades. Weak... very weak....

I will tell you, they emergency patched the old system because... and i QUOTE!!! http://www.swtor.com/blog/ilum-pvp-issues 2nd paragraph.. the new illum is NOTHING like what they mean when they say "The amount of Valor granted from these activities was significantly more than intended" I mean, at least now, its MORE efficient to farm valor to bm gear, vs just allowing base campers to do it. I mean, the fourth paragraph CLEARLY says "We take any sort of situation where one group of players gains an unexpected or unintended advantage over other players very seriously and will act to ensure that all players can have a fair and fun game experience." and people who farm in NO WAY get an unexpected or unintended advantage over other players. (like non clan members unable to organize such things, and have to camp illum to hope for a farm session) So farm away, BW has no issues with this

I have focused down bh's for entire matches just to keep them out of fights. GOOD bh had a healer, or 2nd bh to damage its attackers. That way its tracer missles all day. ps. even with my premades focusing down dps like this, they still hit 300k damage in matches. pss. your biased, because your a bh and scared of nerfs LMAO (jk)

because THIS is what swtor devs intended LMAO. ps. I stop this all the time with my sentinal, but it is still busted as hell lmao "how come my cc doesnt work in pvp warzone" "resolve is broken" "once a sentinal is on you, its impossible to avoid them" "Augmentation droid is now op since the patch"

an "exploit" doesnt mean "glitch, bug, or entity that is broken". Exploit (defined in EULA's) is "Doing something that is against the grain of what the game is originally intended in order to gain an advantage" Otherwise, farming valor on illum by trading back and forth is NOT what was intended by design, and gives a MASSIVE advantage to those who do it (over those who dont, or incapable of catching/organizing such things) PS. Eula also says the have a right to ban or edit your account for participating in such things. If you feel that farming is intended as a part of the game, continue on.... PS. posting pictures of fake responses or "stirring controversy" is also a ban-able offense as per. the "forum rules". Careful on that picture as if it is fake, or you aren't the original recipient, then you may get in trouble. If it is real... forget i said this.

I just read weeks of dev tracker... this statement is a lie. :/ Plus, an "exploit" doesnt mean "glitch, bug, or entity that is broken". Exploit (defined in EULA's) is "Doing something that is against the grain of what the game is originally intended in order to gain an advantage" Otherwise, farming valor on illum by trading back and forth is NOT what was intended by design, and gives a MASSIVE advantage to those who do it (over those who dont, or incapable of catching/organizing such things) PS. Eula also says the have a right to ban or edit your account for participating in such things. In NO WAY did i take sides on if you can do it or not, i just defined what is in the agreement. So i would just go by whatever you feel the eula explains, and if you feel it is ok to farm valor and it is what the game design intended and DOESNT give you advantage. Feel free, until then, my clan will be hunting you people down and making it the most miserable time possible for people to do this. "TO ILLUM." -rageelite "why, its just a valor farm fest?"-pubber "because, it is hilarious how angry they get when you mess with the valor by back dooring points, then attacking in numbers from the spawn speeder as they trickle through, then MASS HEAL your fellow republic, and do force knock backs from stealth to keep them from blobbing HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA" -rageelite "I am in"-about 10 random pubs Numerous times have i become hunted on my server, and imps focus the crap out of my clan in pvp... and WE LOVE IT HAHAHAAHHAHAHA

I dont expect them to answer, nor am i remotely serious about doing this. I was making a point in the post to show what the resolve of the "average" player is. I got the pre-order, and did the grind clean through xmas. I am already up on my battlemaster platform and dancing on cloud 9 since i faceroll all that is sith with my op sentinal. Unfortunately, I also have a lvl 15 (re roll) that I am willing to prove a point with. I will reached lvl 60 valor in 3 days, and will be @ battlemaster in about another due to the farms.... @ lvl 15. SOOOO... i can just bypass the champ gear all together if i please and re-roll every class and do the same @ lvl 15, then play them through to 50 once time suits me. Point is, this is both broken, and i feel it is unintended by devs. BUT, people feel doing this holds no repercussion. MY issue is, i have FUN rolling into illum with my clan, and showing good gameplay beats zerg. When we are on, we win....period. Our power premades ruin the day that some lame inq thinks they can out dps my watchman with cc. Unfortunate my "resolve" is well "guarded" with skill. These farmers, however, are gearing the zerg... not fun to try and carve open 1v2's with better gear then most my group...because of this exact thing. Like i said, I would prefer the thread stays out of just opinion (sorry for babbling) and stick with real player based feedback about we as a community can do to stop these instances... ps. I am planning a full ops assult on the farmers tomorrow on my server. We will keep 2 men @ each cap to keep an even farm from happening, and be guarding all farms from happening. If people are caught doing this, my clan will be policing it. And wrecking their farming fun to make them try again another day. THAT is how I am stopping this.

So... here is the debate and questions that I need answers to. As all PVP players know currently, illum is no longer a place of pvp. Every server I have seen people comment on the valor farming that is going on in these. So we know its there, and we know a LOT of people do it. We also know that it gives a massive advantage to large clans that can organize these things. It also makes the people who ground hard to get to the valor level they are at, frustrated that these farmers can get to bypass champion gear all together and go straight to battlemaster once hitting lvl 50 since this valor farming is soooo easy. This is what I need. Is it ok for people to be doing this? If yes, then I am going to join the crowd to get my farms maxed ASAP since the game devs are allowing us an easy out to pvp gear. If it ISNT allowed, then when you patch it.. do people get to keep their farms that they did BEFORE the patch? Same answer as above. If we DONT get to keep our farms, or are proven to be a part of this exploit, what can I expect to happen to my account / character? If its only a ban with no rollback, i would still easy level to BM gear, since its worth the time/effort to farm that fast over a little time to take a break from swtor. If your planning to roll back those involved, then I want NO PART of this easy farming, since the time would be a waste. THIS IS NOT A TROLL THREAD, OR QQ. I would prefer if people post here, it is to pose other questions for the devs on the related issues, NOT STATE OPINIONS ON WHAT YOU FEEL IS RIGHT OR NOT. I only want an explanation on what the devs will allow us as players to get away with, and what kind of actions they are willing to place on us if we partake of these kind of PVP related controversies. THE ONLY PURPOSE OF THIS THREAD IS TO BRING THE DEVS AND PLAYERS TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IS INTENDED OR EXPECTED FOR RESULTS OF SUCH THINGS BEING DONE IN THE GAME. IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD AND PROGRESS TO WHAT BOTH SIDES INTEND/EXPECT THIS GAME TO BECOME. -Rage Elite, your friendly dark side republic

Warcraft BANNED and DELETED characters for this EXACT thing btw. and yes. It is exploiting .. so agree with all you said. NO mmo should allow this to go unpunished.

More cancels please, then I get in sooner LMAO!!!

PLEASE LORD ALLOW THESE PEOPLE LEAVE THE GAME SO I DONT HAVE TO HEAR THEIR OBSESSIVE MOANING ALL DAY AS I TRY TO ENJOY MYSELF IN THIS MMO, cause that TRULY would be GREAT!!!! Anyone that cancels over something this stupid.. are nothing but victims of being a lame customer with the belief that "complaining brings self entitlement." Too bad life doesnt actually work that way and thank the lord I dont have to see these people in game due to canceling.