this game looks really good and i like the fact they have it fully voiced gives more realism to the game but i hope they have an option to turn on subtitles as i like to play music while playing games

having a star wars "feel" is one of the things im most looking for and one of the things this game needs to be succssfull

I'm just hoping for an extremely large selection of races. Hopefully Mandalorians. But I can settle for humans.

woops sorry i replied in the wrong spot. just look at the one below

The Order of the White Eagles is looking for new members in which to share its profit and which the attack the intolerable Sith with. Let the battle begin and do not forget to join the White Eagles on Tyton!

in the bounty hunter blog it states pretty bluntly that mandalorians are out of the picture

It is kind of interesting. I am a Star Wars Roleplaying game master myself and I have often thought about the same things as Alex Freed is writing here. What makes an adventure a real Star Wars adventure? How to be sure that everything that happens has the feeling of Star Wars?
After some time ponding about these questions I have found myself thinking that Star Wars is a lot more fantasy than it is sci fi. Sure, it´s fantasy with laser guns and spaceships but fantasy nontheless... But maybe thats just my opinion.
I would really like to be part of the storyteam for something as huge as TOR. How does one become something like that?

Why are some of you guys complaining about it not being Kotor 3 >< ? You want to see revan ? Well maybe , just maybe , they'll do what WoW did . Make a Caverns of time type thing into the game. Like maybe in the jedi library there will be a machine that lets you go back into historical records and act out what happend . Like the caverns of time section called the culling of strathholme , you get to help Arthas (possibly the most iconic character in warcraft lore) act out a piece of his life in which he betrayed the humans. Maybe in SWTOR they will do something like that with holograms , or a simulator , its starwars , they have awesome techonology , im pretty sure they have some kind of simulator that lets you go back and relive history.

no that would suck

You need to finish what you started!

KOTOR fans were expecting to fight the SITH as Revan and save the galaxy.

There is no Dark Side, nor a Light Side
There is Only the Force
I will do what I must to keep the balance
The balance is what keeps me together
There is no good without evil, but evil must not be allowed to flourish
There is passion, Yet peace
Serenity, Yet emotion
Chaos, yet order
I am the wielder of the flame, the protector of balance
I am the holder of the torch, lighting the way
I am the keeper of the flame, soldier of balance
I am a guardian of balance
I am a Gray Jedi

Cant wait for the story but i hope they have a Mmo feel to the story so questing with others and doing some extremely hard quest that requires a few friends to kill one monster or tons of monsters

Deep

This is an interesting concept. Not to refrence SWG to deeply but, in elements of that game it lacked a rule base of a story line. And when it did make attempts to craft a story it later contradicted itself.

If something does not exsist within the timeline even though it is acts of fiction some rules need to be established and followed. This will gain the respect of the fans and players. The story is above all else the core of the game. A great story should exsist above any other eleement. I have alot of hope SWTOR and Bioware can actually bring this together.

Dutchguy, if you ever payed attention to ANYTHING they said, rather than just attacking the game simply because its an MMORPG, you would learn each class has its own storyline, choice matters, no 2 classes will have the same quest, and there is a finishable storyline for each class and once you finish that branch, as far as I know you'll be absorbed into a larger branch focused more on the war between the republic and the sith empire.

I agree that Bioware makes great games, i heavily disagree with making KOTOR an all online game.
If you would ask people what or who they want to be in a game, most people would say they want to be the main character and for a couple of hours, they want to be submerged into a good story , the people who don't want this mostly play the sims or games like that.
The point is how unique and special your gameexperience will be when you go on a quest to slay a Krayt dragon for example, with 10 other players who have to reach the same goal?
How can you say it will be storydriven when a mmorpg doesn't have an ending?

I for one was waiting a long time for KOTOR3 hoping that it had next gen graphics, choices you as an individual make truly affect the world an people arround you, improved AI, but what do we get?
A MMORPG with a monthly fee no doubt and off course infinite meaningless quests and no story you can get sucked into.
This game will fail miserably i'm affraid....and when it does i hope both Bioware and Lucasarts will see their mistake and make a proper KOTOR3.
Don't believe me? i suggest you create a poll with 2 choices;
-1- A mmorpg specify everything costs/graphics quality etc
-2- Kotor3 Next gen graphics, great story written for one player and as an additive online capabilities(for trade, training or other stuff).

I"ll bet my life here and now that most people will choose the latter option and that most people that are responding positive are just people who are waiting for a long time on KOTOR3 and just hope it doesn't get as bad as they fear, if you give those people KOTOR3 instead of a mmorpg they will preorder the game on the day you announce it.
I tell you what, if you decide to make KOTOR3 i will make 3d models for you for free( i only know maya and a bit of XSI and 3DS max), just supply me with concept art and sourceimages and i get it done i even write the story if you don't want to... :)
Just to show i am for reall here are some examples of my work;
http://forum.simplymaya.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=25202&perpage=15&...

and last work i had time for;
http://forum.simplymaya.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=29188&perpage=15&...

Just don't make the mmorpg....

I see that the quest will be of great succes and the story it tells intresting but i still wonder if there batteldroits (i think not) in the game. I can not wait untill it comes out i realy want to play.

With many online games i hate there quest they always have another story how can they aspect we now wath the real story is and of they even have a true story take an exemple rubies of eventide I now ??? is there a game that have such a name? yes, its a good game I only wish they had better quest with a story or take runscape jou must now that game. a lot of quest but its just walking around or slaying monsters its not realy a game for multi players only wan quest is for 2 players. it realy sucks!!!

the quest of SWTOR will be not like that thats wath will keep me going and even makes the waiting less boring this realy makes me happy to see we have quest that have a real story to tell

keep it going writhing team cant wait to play jour quests

I totally disagree with Dutchguy.

KOTOR 1 & 2 are possibly the best games I have ever played and i was eagerly waiting a third installment, however when i heard that they would be making an MMORPG version i was very happy. I was so very disappointed with SWG for so many reasons but mostly cause it just wasn't 'Star Wars-y'.

Even if the story lines in this new installment might not make any real impact on the game universe as a whole the potential for this to be not only the best MMORPG but also the best Star Wars ever is just immense.

I can't believe Bioware would lets us down on any of the worries people might have about this game. Story, animation, interface, feel and all those things that made the KOTOR games so good will only be improved upon and , in my opinion, the KOTOR 'type' game is the perfect platform to be manipulated in to an MMORPG.

As for MMORPG not having 'endings' then i would suggest that Star Wars has never had an 'absolute' ending hence so many spin offs in Films, TV, books and the rest. In addition to that; this can be written as KOTOR 3 and when you finish that story line you can then just go on to what would be KOTOR 4 then 5 and so on, while all the time still playing the same game with the same character with all the time invested in that character not being lost. I would suggest the only bad things on the original games in that they had to end. :)

Can not wait for this game.

This game should be good, when i first saw this game i was like come on WTF!!!!!!!!!! where the F*** is kotor 3, i freakin went and bought both of those games as soon as i could, and beat them over and over and then out of nowhere when i was hoping to hear about a kotor 3 i get SWTOR a F***** MMO. I said WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!NO!!!!!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that ive seen more of this game, i can F****** wait til get my hands on it, i read the comment of some cool guy named ray-wan who was starting a clan for this game and i was like that sounds cool, i always wanted to be in a clan and be someone kinda important, so i joined and all i can do is think about how much fun me and my friends are gonna have when we play, i ve seen every sreen shot and video of this agme and so far its lookin good, the combat is like kotor 1 and 2 and the graphics are amazing fro an MMO, the plantes and the amont of content they are claming you will have access to sounds very promising, i am hopeing so much that this game turns out good, i will pre-order it as soon as i can and then pay it off, plan on building a sick gaming rig with a phenom 2 processor and an ati 4870 and setting this games graphics o max, i mean if i can play crysis i can play this game. so yeah i really phsyced about this game and i plan on playing it on day one. also visit http://thesithlordsempire.webs.com and speak to clan leader Ray-Wan if you want to try and join if you cant speak to him try marco-coden, there will be a dark council, sith lords, sith knoghts, acoyltes and sith lords or higher rank will be allowed to take on virtual apprentinces in the game. thanks guys whoever read this long A** coment and hope to meet you online, if you plan on being a jedi, I Darth Severous and my fellow clan members will destroy you and the entire jedi order,lololo. thanks again......or should i say i na **creapy voice** GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD =)

P.S. if you do decide to visist the site and try and join i would loike it if you could mention me as your reference, its Darth Severous..........GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD... um??????....NIGGGGGGHHHHHHT!!!!!!!!! =)

A long time coming indeed.......I Remember the previous 2 knights of the old republic games, though I loved the story lines, I was not too thrilled about the turn based combat, I hope that we will see combat closer to wow or warhammer online, or even Starwars Battle Front mixed into a good fighting engine.
I will say this right now...Galaxys sucked and I MEAN SONY REALLY BOLLOXED IT UP GOOD. So I beg you guys if you do something allong the lines like they did....I will loose any and all respect I have for you guys, and right now Bioware is one of the top of my list for breaking out some steller games....so don't sink as low as sony does with their Cluster-F**** online universe.
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As for the space combat, I agree with most of the people as to not make it like eve online, but more of the first person shoot em up style, or if like the older republic games make so we have to use our turrets, or have multiple users on the turrets, or involved int he space combat, with an option to land if they would prefer. I know this is an mmorpg, but I think that it would be one of the great achievements that a futureistic mmo can take place both running about on worlds and moons, and have space flight-trade-combat options as well........I allways thought that it would be either StarWars or 40k to break the back of that cartoony game called wow that many of us are still reduced to, including myself {I play wow and eve as I am waiting for Skaven to become a playable race in warhammer}

Seeing the Ebon Hawk parked, or flying around somewhere would be cool too.
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To all those here who are die hard Sith, I think that Revan should by all means make an appearance in this game, but in the form of a boss, and not a playable toon. It would be fitting if we would be able to take quests from Revan as well as others, but to match up the time base to make all Star Wars fans happy might require a time warp to be built into the game, as we all have our favorites, which I am sure span across a vast time period.
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I am also hoping that the pvp aspect of this game will be a little like the battle front games.....but only time will tell I guess.

Anyways Best of Luck, and I am soo going pre-order this game first chance I have!

I personally liked EVE onlines space fighting, however I do agree that a lot of people don't. I would like to see something turret related, such as manning turbolasers if your on one of the big ships, or maybe smaller turrets for the YT sized fighters. And if thats not possible, maybe getting rid of that and leaves that to the NPC's mainly, then have the players take care of boarding the enemy ship/defending their own. That would be fun.

But considering how much faith I have in bioware for some of the great games their making, I'm sure whatever they make will be great.

As for the pvp combat, I completely agree, battlefront MMO style sounds like an awesome idea.

I love how they genuinely seem to care about the story.

As for space content, it is a must, it is not enoguh to jsut fly from one planet to another in a loading screen. 50% of the action of star wars is in space. I really love the idea of getting a crew together and exploring, and getting jumped by smugglers and literally telling my buddies to "Get to the turrets"

Thatd be sweet

Or something like " letts settle down over there" Landing in the middle of hte dessert in the night and hiking to get the jump on somebody

in regards to revan he probably will return in a future patch after release, or maybe even expansion, its smart of them not to make everything we know from the others available to us at start. Also I hope there will be lengthy story driven content in this and that the devs take all the time neccesary to create a game that they enjoy and want to play even knowing everything ahead of time. To me thats something, if you can make a game that people will not get tired of playing multiple times and that new player experience is just as grand as mid to high lvl content so the player feels immersed and like they are actually important to the game. you guys have a rare thing here, an already founded and fan heavy licsence that you put into the right time and it gives you the freedom to make your own epic adventure that may turn out to be absolutley amazing, and for one I sure hope so. oxxxxx}=================>

i would like to point out, though i don't like the revamp galaxcies the origanl version rocked, as for space combat alls they need to do is upgrade the galaxcies version which was the only part in the revamp that was worth playing.
Revamp that part and space combat could over shadow the rest of the game

What happens to Revan? Will Revan be still be around in this mmo? I know its been 300 years but it doesnt stop guys like the Sith Emperor. Right?

Thats why i am pissed off.... You had a great franchise with KOTOR 1 & 2, amazing storyline ( that they would be smart to make a movie about ) and we dont find out what happens??? All we know is that Revan leaves to fight the "original" Sith, the main character from KOTOR 2 leaves to fight with Revan, and then a big blank in the timeline for 300 years???

All i know is what should have been KOTOR 3, was what i was waiting for. You cant go back and fix it now, if the Sith returned, it means Revan failed doesnt it?

Revan'll probably be hooded as everyone had a different Revan. Or maybe he'll be a droid :)

This game should be good, when i first saw this game i was like come on WTF!!!!!!!!!! where the F*** is kotor 3, i freakin went and bought both of those games as soon as i could, and beat them over and over and then out of nowhere when i was hoping to hear about a kotor 3 i get SWTOR a F***** MMO. I said WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!! NO!!!!!NO!!!!!!!!NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that ive seen more of this game, i can F****** wait til get my hands on it, i read the comment of some cool guy named ray-wan who was starting a clan for this game and i was like that sounds cool, i always wanted to be in a clan and be someone kinda important, so i joined and all i can do is think about how much fun me and my friends are gonna have when we play, i ve seen every sreen shot and video of this agme and so far its lookin good, the combat is like kotor 1 and 2 and the graphics are amazing fro an MMO, the plantes and the amont of content they are claming you will have access to sounds very promising, i am hopeing so much that this game turns out good, i will pre-order it as soon as i can and then pay it off, plan on building a sick gaming rig with a phenom 2 processor and an ati 4870 and setting this games graphics o max, i mean if i can play crysis i can play this game. so yeah i really phsyced about this game and i plan on playing it on day one. also visit http://thesithlordsempire.webs.com and speak to clan leader Ray-Wan if you want to try and join if you cant speak to him try marco-coden, there will be a dark council, sith lords, sith knoghts, acoyltes and sith lords or higher rank will be allowed to take on virtual apprentinces in the game. thanks guys whoever read this long A** coment and hope to meet you online, if you plan on being a jedi, I Darth Severous and my fellow clan members will destroy you and the entire jedi order,lololo. thanks again......or should i say i na **creapy voice** GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD =)

umm, im very pissed off, i want revan, i wanted kotor 3, the return of reven, and they could continue this, but i miss reven. i dont like that like the strongest jedi got killed or something, i dont like it, i want kotor 3!!!

no, revan never returned to known space

Hi all... I am new to baynet too.Of course, I quit reading and posting on the some blogs & forums. I won't go into details becuase I am sure most of you know why...
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Not to sure what you are trying to say..I mean is it or is it not.

Anyhow I know I am rambling but try to see it from someone reading it the first time without thinking about it first.
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I'm 80% sure it'll be where they all talk or I sure as hell hope they do, which is the other 20%

I have a question for you Bioware. Will the NPC'S and Companion characters in this game talk or will we have to spend a lot of time reading in this game??? I hope that the NPC'S and Companion characters talk to you like they do in KOTOR 1 & 2. I always wanted to play an online star wars game where the NPC'S and Companion characters talk to you. It makes it much easier for you when spend all day working and you want come home to relax and play a game that you don't have to spend a lot of time reading quest to find out what you must do to complete it.

Keep up the good work Bioware!

The MMO is ganna be FULLY voiced. thousands of NPC's, hundreds of thousands of lines. All voiced

Sounds good, but i hope and pray that this game does not follow the path of world of warcraft and star wars galaxies in any way. I hate cookie cutter templates that force you to put skill points in skills that you are not going use,and like world of warcraft, the over sized weapons are to childish.Reminds me of the weapons in star wars legos. a game i may like if i were 6 years of age.

I hope that we can fly our ships on planets and land them on the planets surface if the star ports are full or if we plan to land on a planet by stealth or if we are shot down and need to make an emergency landing on a near by planet. I also hope that we can land our ships on space stations and other star cruisers in space to do missions/quest in space or just to land on them to try and take them over.I hope that this game will go all the way with the star wars experience and not part of the way like most online games.

Bioware, please do not give us a carbon copy of every online game out there! Give us something unique! Something that looks and feels like a real star wars game. Give us something unlike sony's S.W.G. There game looks like star wars, but does not feel like it where a jedi is but nothing a profession and is easy to kill. if Jedi in the movies were like the ones in S.W.G. The galaxy would still be in chaos and every other profession would save the galaxy and not the Jedi who are supposed to be the elite of the elite or they would not be the keepers of peace and justice! Give the character's real like skills that you would see in the movies not some generic garbage.

Keep up the good work and i hope that i get the real Star wars experience and feel in S.W.T.O.R that S.W.G has failed to do because of there constant combat revamps. S.W.G pre-cu un-nerfed was the closest thing to getting right!

Sleign, sony screws up all their games. They give em 6 months if they like the people who developed it.

What do you mean by adding SWG in the cookie cutter situation? If you mean the post NGE one then yes, its cookie-cutter but pre-NGE was far from it, 250 point talent trees doesnt leave much room for cookie-cutting.

But I do agree you should be able to land on space stations like the one at the beginning of SWG, I was always disappointed that we never got that experience again in the game, we could use those so that we could meet contacts or hang out with friends in the space stations cantina.

As for the CC of every game out there, there have been so many aspects of MMOs shown out there that you will have some over-lapping somewhere but just because one thing is the same don't shout "OMGZ this is just copying WOW". But please dont attack SWG unless you point out that it was post NGE SWG. Pre-NGE SWG was one of the best MMOs in history. SWG would not have failed if sony didn't kill it like they do all their games.

If you have any continuity question, I advise you to look at starwars.wikia.com, the Star Wars Wiki. It's not completly reliable, but the Featured Articles can be trust.

im with almost all of you but bioware for gods sake dont make the space section of the game anthing like e.v.e online that would completly kill that part of the game.

I heard that it was 500 years after the exile. But I'd like to know what happen.

I really hope they bring back Revan and the Exile I was so curious on what happened to Revan.

omg same, i wanna kno wats happened 2 like everyone, Reven, the Exile, Carth, Bastila, Handmaiden ( i forgot her real name ^_^) everyone, im mad where the story is going but im excited for the game, =\

They wont bring back revan :((((((( *cry* Revan left to stop an unseen threat,which was ofc the Sith Empire (played KOTOR II lots of times :P) So this game brings The Sith EMpire to life,meaning Revan failed :(,or maybe not,maybe he stalled them all this time dunno I just would ask through some quests or something or finding a rare holocron or what-not we finally learn what happened to revan,please Bioware!!! IT has been slowly eating KOTOR fans since the last game :P !
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Personaly I couldn't care less about the continuity. For me it's more important that the story is good and not wether it fits into the "big picture". I think most of the players that will buy the game haven't read the comic books or novels so they won't care either.

Still, It's good to see that they put that much thought into it. If they put the same amount of attention to the quality of the writing then I'm happy. =)

i think is very good lots classes ... but i think is better Jedi and Darth classes is supreme classe and another is low, middle and hi classes .... becouse Star Wars is Jedi and Darth... good and bad... its principales classes in this game and movie :)... and hope is more classes not only fight classes. .. like architect, miner, medical or so many another posibilities ....

jedi and darth?Darth who?Darth Revan?Darth Vader?Darth Sidius?Darth is used for sith members above the rank of marauder...you must be thinking Sith instead of Darth... Its Light Side-Dark Side
Jedi - Sith
And 2ndly I disagree 100% with you. Wanting something like that is lame and unfair to everyone else that would play another class.And to your dislike and my comfort they WONT make it as you say. Simply because noone will play it then. They will equally balance each class no matter what. So...Sorry...lol

i think is very good lots classes ... but i think is better Jedi and Darth classes is supreme classe and another is low, middle and hi classes .... becouse Star Wars is Jedi and Darth... good and bad... its principales classes in this game and movie :)... and hope is more classes not only fight classes. .. like architect, miner, medical or so many another posibilities ....

I can honestly say I'm ecstatic over this. I have been hoping and waiting for a game like this to come out, with it being Star Wars is just sauce for the goose! I just hope it isnt put through a strainer and watered down so it can be released quickly and full of flaws. I'm sure there are gonna be people that will hate it, even rant about it on the forums (there always are), but for now I'm just happy to know it's coming. Bioware, you guys have your work cut out for you. If KotOR 1 and 2 are any indication, you'll be just fine.

one thing u have to remember Bioware is that U SHOULDNT MAKE IT SIMILIAR TO SWG. Make it different. i never played swg before but from the stories i read about it, i heard it was good at first then it got ver very horrible.

Just try to be creative and stick to the lore of kotor, not the Star wars movie lore.