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Yoda and Darth Sidious


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BrandonSM
12.27.2011 , 06:39 PM | #1
Now, I heard multiple times from multiple posters on the old forums(Pre-Wipe) that Yoda was the most powerful Force User Until Skywalker stated by GL or LucasArts. Every time I asked for evidence.. I was either ignored, passed by or whatever. The reason I asked for Evidence was because in my opinion and my evidence of Episode 3, that Sidious was a more powerful Force User than Yoda.

In Episode 3, though it was an extremely close fight, Sidious defeated Yoda. That is canon. I mean was Yoda no longer in his prime during this time? Or is the statement of Yoda being the most powerful Force User before Luke not true and it is myth?



Because how I see my List.

1. Luke Skywalker
2. Abeloth(Here is a difficult decision. Until I see Abeloth do something that can truly defeat or surpass Luke, I am putting her under Luke)
3. Sidious
4. Yoda



Help?!?
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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pommopsicle
12.27.2011 , 07:26 PM | #2
my opinion on this is that yoda is more in tune with the force than darth sideous but darth sideous is more powerful than yoda because of his enhanced darkside abilities. also remember that it was technically impossible for yoda to defeat darth sideous, because anakin was supposed to do it later to complete the great prophecy thingy. side note, technically, vader should be on your list somewhere because he had more mitichlorians than any jedi seen before, making him a powerful contendor.
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Hi_Im_A_Sith
12.27.2011 , 07:29 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by pommopsicle View Post
my opinion on this is that yoda is more in tune with the force than darth sideous but darth sideous is more powerful than yoda because of his enhanced darkside abilities. also remember that it was technically impossible for yoda to defeat darth sideous, because anakin was supposed to do it later to complete the great prophecy thingy. side note, technically, vader should be on your list somewhere because he had more mitichlorians than any jedi seen before, making him a powerful contendor.
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BrandonSM
12.27.2011 , 07:41 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by pommopsicle View Post
my opinion on this is that yoda is more in tune with the force than darth sideous but darth sideous is more powerful than yoda because of his enhanced darkside abilities. also remember that it was technically impossible for yoda to defeat darth sideous, because anakin was supposed to do it later to complete the great prophecy thingy. side note, technically, vader should be on your list somewhere because he had more mitichlorians than any jedi seen before, making him a powerful contendor.
Midichlorians is not the same as power. It just means how powerful you can become. It basically means you have more potential with more midichlorians. But Anakin lost more than half of his potential when he became cybernetic and therefore wasn't as strong as he should have been. And Luke became what Anakin could have been. The Almighty Mortal God of Star Wars.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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pommopsicle
12.27.2011 , 07:47 PM | #5
Then that would mean that anikan should make the list. Also, what about Revan since he's been exposed to both the dark and lightside of the force, he has a better understanding of it and therefore, increased control.
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pommopsicle
12.27.2011 , 07:51 PM | #6
YAY ty moderator
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BrandonSM
12.27.2011 , 08:02 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by pommopsicle View Post
Then that would mean that anikan should make the list.
Did you even read my post?
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."

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Rhyltran
12.27.2011 , 08:04 PM | #8
"Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chambers, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two entered into a spectacular duel -- a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force's light and dark sides. The Emperor proved too powerful to defeat. Though Yoda held his own for much of the duel, in the end, the Sith bested him. He realized that directly confronting the Sith would be doomed to failure. Defeated, Yoda slinked away into the shadows of the Senate chamber's cavernous depths, leaping into a waiting getaway speeder piloted by Bail Organa."

This was taken from Leland Chee himself. Sidious was more powerful than Yoda. Yoda realized that directly facing Sidious was doomed to failure. It also states that Sidious was too powerful for him to defeat. Nowhere does it state that Yoda wasn't in his prime. It pretty much comes down to this. Yoda may be the most powerful Jedi pre-Luke. However, Sidious was simply a more powerful Sith. If you watch the scenes you'll notice that except in two instances it almost seemed as if Sidious was playing with him. The only two times he seemed worried was when he was being pushed back in a saber lock and also when Yoda was absorbing his force lightning.

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Netchae
12.27.2011 , 08:05 PM | #9
lol i was thinking about this in this very moment and was about to search for some thing about this here in the forums and then it is the top topic lol

hahha

well i belive sidious is more powerfull then yoda for sure.

but luck is the allmight ? really? i think i need to read thouse books about the future of Luck ^^

What about Darth Bane? with his orbalisks to shield him from damage and give him alot of chemicals to make him stronger?

he is a very powerfull Darth Lord.

lol
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BrandonSM
12.27.2011 , 08:05 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Rhyltran View Post
"Inside the spacious interior of the Galactic Senate chambers, Yoda challenged the Emperor. The two entered into a spectacular duel -- a contest between the most powerful practitioners of the Force's light and dark sides. The Emperor proved too powerful to defeat. Though Yoda held his own for much of the duel, in the end, the Sith bested him. He realized that directly confronting the Sith would be doomed to failure. Defeated, Yoda slinked away into the shadows of the Senate chamber's cavernous depths, leaping into a waiting getaway speeder piloted by Bail Organa."

This was taken from Leland Chee himself. Sidious was more powerful than Yoda.
Thank you.
Hapan: "This creature has information that could lead us to a woman who has been kidnapped. We will get that information."
Luke: "This woman is a citizen of the New Republic, and if you do not take your hands off her, I will take your hands off you."