Please upgrade your browser for the best possible experience.

Chrome Firefox Internet Explorer
×

Stormtroopers


jarjarloves's Avatar


jarjarloves
12.27.2011 , 12:59 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Wolfninjajedi View Post
Answers in bold, also.

"The tide of the battle began to turn as Chewbacca used this AT-ST to take out isolated Imperial units as well as another Imperial walker. The sight of this rallied the remaining Ewoks, who had been retreating into the woods, and they doubled their efforts behind the stolen AT-ST."
not at all yes they destroy the at sts after but all of those things had to have been set up before time. It's not like they said "look we got an AT ST now lets quickly set up some logs and rock

The stolen AT-ST is no where near the other ewoks and seeing as they don't have any type of radios there is no way all of them who are in all directions around the compound could have ralied.

It was actually the Ewoks tactics to get the stormtroopers to follow them into the woods and divide their forces then suprise them with all the traps they had set up.

Watch the Blu Ray version of Return and you clearly see the arrow going through the scout troopers white armor. He has a sort of bump in teh armor you can see the arrow penetrating that and going straight through the armor.


Its nice that you want to give Chewy this credit however the real credit goes to the Ewoks. Chew did destroy 1 At St and a couple of storm troopers but it pales in comparison to the number that the Ewoks destroyed and killed... and then later probably ate seeing as they were willing to eat Han and Luke earlier.


Here you go this should help you understand just how awful the Storm Troopers are

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWtrooparmor.html


Remember if it is in the SW movies it is official G - Canon which means it is correct no matter what the books or guides say.

Bow-Wow-Wow's Avatar


Bow-Wow-Wow
12.27.2011 , 01:02 AM | #12
The thing everyone here if forgetting is that Ewoks beat them not because the Stormtroopers can't aim, but because Ewoks are Bad***.
Haters gonna' hate.

Stormcloudx's Avatar


Stormcloudx
12.28.2011 , 10:07 AM | #13
Ok ok guys by lore Storm trooper are bad *** and well trained. However when it comes to the hero on the scene all that training goes out he window. The hero always has to win, and if he loses he still has to make them look stupid in the process. Thats why the troopers in the movies sucked. Lore wise they were quite deadly.

This hero reduction to their abilities is something I cant stand, I created a freelance text based rpg on a website that has strict rules of hero auto winning in odds that normally would outright kill them. Though i will say clone troopers are the most bad *** troops next to mando's.

jarjarloves's Avatar


jarjarloves
12.28.2011 , 10:33 AM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Stormcloudx View Post
Ok ok guys by lore Storm trooper are bad *** and well trained. However when it comes to the hero on the scene all that training goes out he window. The hero always has to win, and if he loses he still has to make them look stupid in the process. Thats why the troopers in the movies sucked. Lore wise they were quite deadly.

This hero reduction to their abilities is something I cant stand, I created a freelance text based rpg on a website that has strict rules of hero auto winning in odds that normally would outright kill them. Though i will say clone troopers are the most bad *** troops next to mando's.
well to be fair Battle Droids are far worse. I mean who makes an army of droids that have FEAR installed in them. Defeats the entire purpose. Even George Lucas said the Battle droids where pretty much useless in the behind the scenes footage of the making of The Phantom Menace.



Also Lore wise it's what you see in the movie. There can be 1000 books all saying the stormtroopers are deadly accurate but since they miss all the time in the movies they miss in the lore as the Movies are the top of the canon latter and anything below it doesn't count.


It is possible to make villians that are threatening and still lose to the good guys. The key is have them kill people who are not the heros and show them doing bad *** stuff later.


Then when they are fighting the heros don't show them in a narrow passage shooting and missing targets 5 feet from them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSfz9sgeMA4

bfishback's Avatar


bfishback
12.28.2011 , 11:01 AM | #15
I love people who think the prequels were made for children, then they clearly ignore the childish Ewoks from the originals.

Worst part of the original movies. Would have been much better with wookies.

Molarr's Avatar


Molarr
12.28.2011 , 11:06 AM | #16
Reason why stormtroopers failed to stop ewoks. No camo, white armor in a forest makes no sense.


on a side note, if you read Bacta War, by stackpole, the imperial remnant's stormtroopers start using camo after the fiasco they had on the forest moon of Endor, so at least in the extended universe they wised up abit.

CoruscantSunset's Avatar


CoruscantSunset
12.28.2011 , 11:11 AM | #17
Minds, prepare to be blown....

The troopers lost to Ewoks because ultimately it was a family film and GL had/has/always will have a lot of stupid ideas.

Stormcloudx's Avatar


Stormcloudx
12.28.2011 , 01:06 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Molarr View Post
Reason why stormtroopers failed to stop ewoks. No camo, white armor in a forest makes no sense.


on a side note, if you read Bacta War, by stackpole, the imperial remnant's stormtroopers start using camo after the fiasco they had on the forest moon of Endor, so at least in the extended universe they wised up abit.
Yeah I was about to mention that. Camo was finally introduced..why they went backwards for a short bit was probably due to arrogance on somebody's part.

And to the guy about the move cannon. I still say that was the hero effect i so loathe. Cause they spent time (even in the movies) saying how deadly the storm troopers were. Granted they weren't the superior clone troopers but they were said to be well trained, accurate shooters, and to best rebel troops in combat often. When it actually played out we saw the opposite.

Not to mention I don't get the concept of armor..it always seems useless....but that's another topic.

iacenamon's Avatar


iacenamon
12.28.2011 , 01:51 PM | #19
Its sometimes refered to as the "stormtrooper affect" stormtroopers are crack shots and great fighters until a main charcter is at risk like at mos eisley spaceport you cant tell me NONE of them could even graze han leia chewie luke R2 c-3po.. and etc....

Wolfninjajedi's Avatar


Wolfninjajedi
12.28.2011 , 02:01 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by iacenamon View Post
Its sometimes refered to as the "stormtrooper affect" stormtroopers are crack shots and great fighters until a main charcter is at risk like at mos eisley spaceport you cant tell me NONE of them could even graze han leia chewie luke R2 c-3po.. and etc....
Leia was hit by a stormtrooper on endor.
"There is one lesson you've yet to learn. How to become one with the Force!"
―Cin Drallig to Darth Vader

Maucs the Tauntaun King, former SWG player.