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Why Bioware should never do another Double XP.

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Why Bioware should never do another Double XP.

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TylerAcalan
01.26.2014 , 06:10 AM | #1
Dusk.

Or at least that's what it felt like on our Squad's hopes as we entered the Tomb of Voda-Kressh for the 4th time. 3 assaults, 3 wipes.

All thanks to an inept healer who wouldn't run when told to run and kept getting killed by the dark spirits.

We held out as long as we could. Killing the followers but the Prophet was just too strong. His DoT's? Powerful. His spirits? Unbeatable. It couldn't be done without a healer but none answered the call.

Just when it seemed like all was lost. An unlikely Hero emerged.

He'd been laughed at. Call inept. "The worst companion ever and I with he had an off switch." But we were desperate. "Give him a chance. Not like it's going to hurt anything. We'll bug out after a good laugh." Said the Squad Leader.

The laughter was never heard.

Instead the sound of jaws hit the floor.

C2-N2, the ship droid with no purpose but to grind crafting mats, stepped up to the plate and healed the **** out of the tired squad. His heals? Never ending. His cleansing? The evil DoT's never stood a chance.

"We got the Boss this time!" The squad crowed, renewed by the droid putting all his might into holding the team alive. They loosed everything they had. Invincible by the "Worst Companion Ever."

Dusk fell. This time in the eyes of the boss as the Tank landed a solid Stockstrike into the Prophet's face.

And standing there surrounded by cheering players, clad in his Panted Target appearance mod, stood C2. Waiting for his Master's next order.

And the Galaxy stood still that day. The day a C2-N2 saved it.

-Dedicated to the C2-N2 who delivered us from that dark Tomb and out healed a player.



Okay. Perhaps I'm a little jaded by the day I just had and this was a great way to end it.

"It's a PuG *******. You should know better then to PuG since the quality of PuG's are crap." You say. Sure. I should know better.

But when none of your friends are on and you want to work on leveling. You've got nowhere else to turn. I don't know about you but from what I've seen, the quality has gone further down hill following Double XP weekends.

Again, call me jaded, point and laugh at me for not having a social life and no friends in the game to call on at the time, but this is a thing that happened.

When a Ship droid saves an FP. You know you've reached an all new low in the quality of players out there.

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horrorfaneightys
01.26.2014 , 06:37 AM | #2
While the fact that the ship droid was a better healer is very bad, I don't think double XP is the issue. I think that healer would have been bad whatever happened.

Also I love those weekends - it's nice to over-level and be able to skip bonus missions that I'm not fond of.
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CabelHarn
01.26.2014 , 06:44 AM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by horrorfaneightys View Post
While the fact that the ship droid was a better healer is very bad, I don't think double XP is the issue. I think that healer would have been bad whatever happened.

Also I love those weekends - it's nice to over-level and be able to skip bonus missions that I'm not fond of.
I agree...bads will be bad. Some will learn, some won't because they don't care or are incapable.

I've had similar experiences in lower-level flashpoints with tanks and ended up having my tank comp tank it no problem, which I think is even sadder than the healer example.
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OddballEasyEight
01.26.2014 , 07:41 AM | #4
This illusion that some have about people not learning their classes because of double XP is astounding.
That bad healer would still be a bad healer, it would just take him longer to get there.
And what about all those people who know how to play a healer and want to level up a 2nd, 3rd or even a 10th healer?
Do they have to suffer through the sidequests and planetary quests again just to spare you that one bad healer that will eventually get there anyway?

Don't blame the double xp, blame the fact that some people are crap at playing.

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JattaGin
01.26.2014 , 08:35 AM | #5
As the others already pointed out, I don't see what your story has to do with double XP weekends?

Nonetheless, I enjoyed reading your story quite a bit. Good that C2 finally gets some deserved attention.

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darkov
01.26.2014 , 09:19 AM | #6
People who can't understand teamwork, tactics or the subtle differences between playing a class solo and grouped, are always going to be that way.

Whether you have double experience or not, the entire game is designed around leveling solo to 55. Most, and I mean 99%, will not group during that time and it has nothing to do with double experience.

I like double experience simply because I've leveled enough characters that repeating the same content anymore is going to drive me insane, but it doesn't contribute to idiots in groups.

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KyaniteD
01.26.2014 , 09:41 AM | #7
Very amusing story.

While I see your point, I don't think no more double XP will fix it. Rested XP, XP boosts and legacy XP bonus still allow for pretty fast leveling, and out-leveling the content. We'll still end up with HP tanks, two-button dps and dps healers.

Maybe people should only be allowed to join endgame group finder content after passing a DPS/heal/tank challenge like the ones in the Dread Master Raptus fight in Dread Palace ops. As in, flesh out the "Introduction to Group Finder" mission and make it a real introduction and a test of basic gear/skill readiness.
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lordspyder
01.26.2014 , 09:53 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by KyaniteD View Post
Very amusing story.

While I see your point, I don't think no more double XP will fix it. Rested XP, XP boosts and legacy XP bonus still allow for pretty fast leveling, and out-leveling the content. We'll still end up with HP tanks, two-button dps and dps healers.

Maybe people should only be allowed to join endgame group finder content after passing a DPS/heal/tank challenge like the ones in the Dread Master Raptus fight in Dread Palace ops. As in, flesh out the "Introduction to Group Finder" mission and make it a real introduction and a test of basic gear/skill readiness.
Amen. Not too long ago I had a tank in Cadimimu HM who refused to taunt and we told him numerous times that he was going to get us killed. his response was "I know what my group can handle" Pfft, next pull, wipe. Vote kick, pull out Treek and finished the FP. There is something wrong when you can be better replaced by a companion.

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Taorus
01.26.2014 , 09:57 AM | #9
Not sure what any of this has to do with double Xp, Takes a few hours to get to level 20 to run Athiss, And it has been quite some time since the last Dbl Xp event.

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Mowermanx
01.26.2014 , 10:02 AM | #10
While I dont think they should ever do double xp, its not for this reason, I just think that in this game, which has the fastest leveling of any game on the planet, 2X xp is counter productive to the games long term health.