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Ultimate Showdown!!! Exar-Kun meets his match!!!

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Ultimate Showdown!!! Exar-Kun meets his match!!!

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UndyingHadyn
11.11.2013 , 12:15 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
A duel such as this would probably go down like the Mustafar duel. Exar Kun would blitz Obi-Wan with a brute force offense and Kenobi would weather the attacks. I think that Exar Kun would have to pull every trick he has to get the better of Obi-Wan, but that may not be enough. What then results is an unstoppable force meeting an immovable object... until Exar Kun pulls out his Force abilities, then Kenobi is screwed.

A good match, but Exar Kun would win.
A novice understudy would generally perceive that size doesn't matter -- big guy always wins. Point is "the big guy" kun, would as you say resort to "big" force attacks. Now the common misconception here is that highly powerful Jedi are extremely tuned into the force. In essence, they *are* their environment, every stick, every stone, every spec of dust in the air.....everything.

Now kun would draw on the force to generate this "big" blast of his that everyone accepts as a "kun wins button". Now Obi-wan would be able to sence the huge collection of darkside energy beginning to pool from kun. Obi would also be wise enough to accept that he is unprepared to match such an attack head on.

So what we would see here, is on one side Kun is beginning to channel a force blast, and on the other side, Obi-wan is searching with lightning fast force perception, as to what he shall use to interrupt Kun. He is already aware of absolutely every single molecule in the room....so with his sence of humor, he out-wits Kun.....with a rock.

Obi sends the rock from behind kun with just enough force to not impale kun's skull. Kun does not loose consciousness, however it is too late. Obi-wan uses a force push, which sends Kun shattering into a wall. This attack does incapacitate Kun.

Next thing that occurs in kun's world, is him opening his eyes in a special chamber of the Republic Prison. Kun is nothing more than a relic of just another failed Jedi that thought he could rule the galaxy.

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Aurbere
11.11.2013 , 12:50 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by UndyingHadyn View Post
Now kun would draw on the force to generate this "big" blast of his that everyone accepts as a "kun wins button".
Except Kun doesn't have to use a "big blast." He can just use the weaker blasts (like he did to Aleema Keto). And FYI, it's an 'I win button" in this case because Kenobi has no defense against it.
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UndyingHadyn
11.11.2013 , 01:53 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Except Kun doesn't have to use a "big blast." He can just use the weaker blasts (like he did to Aleema Keto). And FYI, it's an 'I win button" in this case because Kenobi has no defense against it.
Precisely why Obi-wan interrupted the attack before it began. No FYI required.

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Aurbere
11.11.2013 , 01:59 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by UndyingHadyn View Post
Precisely why Obi-wan interrupted the attack before it began. No FYI required.
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Except Kun doesn't have to use a "big blast." He can just use the weaker blasts (like he did to Aleema Keto). And FYI, it's an 'I win button" in this case because Kenobi has no defense against it.
Read it again.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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UndyingHadyn
11.11.2013 , 02:18 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
Read it again.
Pfft. Kun will just saunter over and release a force fart? Even easier then for Obi-wan to diffuse. I mean if kun in your arguement, uses a "lesser" blast as opposed to a "greater" blast.... Kun would then be defeated even easier by Obi-wan.

Not to mention that your arguement is unlikely, for this blast will occur later in the fight...a last resort by kun, out of desperation against a greater foe.

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LadyKulvax
11.11.2013 , 03:00 PM | #16
Completely incorrect.

1.Exar Kun's instantaneous blasts stil knocked Aleema Keto into a coma that she didn't wake up from for days and she being a sorceress used a sorcery enhanced Force Barrier in an attempted to block the attack, Kun still smashed straight through her barrier with ease (something he actually has an affinity for as he did the same to Jedi Masters with Force Wave and the Kill variation of Force Wound).

2.Contrary to popular belief, he did not only lunge straight into lightsaber combat, whilst he did enjoy gaining total victory via a lightsaber duel, that need to prove himself vanished by the time of Ulic's trial and he enjoyed crippling Jedi with his Force Powers even before igniting his lightsaber blade, he liked to show how powerful he was by bypassing the Force Barriers of even powerful Jedi Masters, a feat that should definitely not be over-looked.

I would however like to make the point that Kun has shown that he is able to use a fully powered Force Blast when you tick him off and who is the master of Trollesu? Obi-Wan Kenobi, I also hear Kenobi has a love for taunting his opponents, which will only drive Kun's emotions even harder. Given this point, the likelihood of Kun being given the energy to blast Kenobi with a much higher charged blast of Dark Side energy, through Obi-Wan's fighting style, is high.
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Aurbere
11.11.2013 , 03:40 PM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by UndyingHadyn View Post
Pfft. Kun will just saunter over and release a force fart? Even easier then for Obi-wan to diffuse. I mean if kun in your arguement, uses a "lesser" blast as opposed to a "greater" blast.... Kun would then be defeated even easier by Obi-wan.

Not to mention that your arguement is unlikely, for this blast will occur later in the fight...a last resort by kun, out of desperation against a greater foe.
You're not getting the point at all. Exar Kun's Force Blasts are projections (beams, explosions, etc.) of pure Dark Side energy against which there is no defense unless you have an intimate knowledge of Sith Sorcery. Even then, a powerful Sorceress was rendered unconscious by one of Kun's weaker Force Blasts.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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Selenial
11.11.2013 , 04:26 PM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
against which there is no defense
Read that in my best Darth Traya voice...
We all live or die as Krayt wills, Stryfe. At his word, I would cut out my own heart. Or yours.
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Aurbere
11.11.2013 , 05:34 PM | #19
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Read that in my best Darth Traya voice...
I was hoping for that.
Added Chapter 66 to The Shadows Fall
"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus

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UndyingHadyn
11.11.2013 , 07:07 PM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
Completely incorrect.

1.Exar Kun's instantaneous blasts stil knocked Aleema Keto into a coma that she didn't wake up from for days and she being a sorceress used a sorcery enhanced Force Barrier in an attempted to block the attack, Kun still smashed straight through her barrier with ease (something he actually has an affinity for as he did the same to Jedi Masters with Force Wave and the Kill variation of Force Wound).

2.Contrary to popular belief, he did not only lunge straight into lightsaber combat, whilst he did enjoy gaining total victory via a lightsaber duel, that need to prove himself vanished by the time of Ulic's trial and he enjoyed crippling Jedi with his Force Powers even before igniting his lightsaber blade, he liked to show how powerful he was by bypassing the Force Barriers of even powerful Jedi Masters, a feat that should definitely not be over-looked.

I would however like to make the point that Kun has shown that he is able to use a fully powered Force Blast when you tick him off and who is the master of Trollesu? Obi-Wan Kenobi, I also hear Kenobi has a love for taunting his opponents, which will only drive Kun's emotions even harder. Given this point, the likelihood of Kun being given the energy to blast Kenobi with a much higher charged blast of Dark Side energy, through Obi-Wan's fighting style, is high.
There's absolutely nothing incorrect about it at all!!!

Answering your first point is easy, for Kun's blasts versus a sith, have no similarities at all. This is due to the nature of how darkside users draw upon the force and internalize it before unleashing their fury. Obi-wan is a Jedi. I've already stated how his force powers are one with his surroundings(each molecule), at all times. His ability to foresee the power of Kun's blasts, lesser or greater, would be profoundly better than some second rate sith chick.

Ok, let's say Kun decided to start blasting away straight off against obi-wan. This would probably not occur, for even arrogant little Kun would detect something powerful about Obi-wan's demeanor. Once again..Obi-wan would be wise enough not to head-butt a darkside force blast.

A master of trollesu?? Let's look at Obi's fight against Annikin. There was nothing pretentious about Obi's attitude, for he was faced against a more powerful opponent. So If you suggest that Obi-wan was able to find time to taunt Kun, and thus anger Kun... then that clearly demonstrates, by your own regard, that Obi-wan was handing Kun his own arse.