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ThalordSin
08.16.2013 , 11:41 AM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Sarraan View Post
Yea unfortunately this happens. I was in a group last week where the group voted to kick our tank of all people, just because he had a long loading time at the start of the flash point. Some people are just impatient and/or stupid and the only thing you can do is ignore them to filter out the bad.
that's ignorant to kick someone after waiting (x amount of time) I would have left the group all together because "they" are super bloodthirsty for the first hitpoints.

I mean did they tell you Hi? emote ? or even try to make an attempt at communicating? or did the guy that voted him out just tell "you" and the other dude in the group to kick him he doesn't have time for it?".......

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totocows
08.16.2013 , 02:23 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak View Post
This goes for anyone on the team doing something counter to group cooperation.

I was once in a FP where a DPS would rush in before the tank. The tank and I (the healer) saved him a few times. We warned him several times, yelled at him several more, and then we simply stopped saving him. Funniest part was he never learned: he would die, release, run back, and just jump in again. Eventually he just quit .
I let a group wipe one time when I was tanking because a dps consistently pulled everything before me. He was good and usually cooperative, we were clearing it in record time, it just frustrated me and made it significantly more difficult to get aggro. He pulled the final boss in one of the new hm fps right when we got in the room so I just stood there and watched everyone die. After just told them "I wasn't ready yet". The guy was actually pretty apologetic after and took the blame for the wipe.

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Eternalnight
08.19.2013 , 10:43 AM | #13
Under normal circumstances if a player enters a flashpoint signed up as a dps and then without even asking from the rest of the group if it is ok, starts to act as if he was the tank (such as taunts the boss) even though the group still has an actual tank too, then that is perfectly valid reason to kick him out of the group.

If you want to tank then queue as a tank.
If you want to queue as a dps then do dps and don't use your tanking abilities designed to take aggro.

If you join as a dps and then try tank, why would it be wrong to kick you?
Granted in your story the others perhaps did all kinds of things wrong too and on a different group they might have deserved a kick too, but 2 wrongs don't make a right.

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Razamatazz
08.19.2013 , 11:45 AM | #14
You did the right thing OP. As a DPS it's your secondary job to peel off the healer if the tank is missing it, or it's a silver or under mob while the tank has multiple golds or a champion. In this case there were multiple things going on wrong.

1. Your tank may have been going too slow
2. Your healer ran in front of the tank
3. Your healer initiated a fight (grounds for a vote kick if it happens regularly)

Now, maybe your tank was going at a normal rate, and the healer was just going too fast, your tank should have tried to keep up, but the tank should be the one who is setting the pace, don't run ahead (as a general rule of thumb, stealth can to sap and such). To taunt off the healer is the right thing to do, if your healer is being pressured it, in most cases (he could have been quite over geared and have handled it), makes it much harder for them to keep everyone alive. Allowing the healer to free cast is ideal, and keeping them doing this is everyone's job in this game.

In the end there are a lot of mean spirited players out there. There's also a lot of dumb players and a lot of uninformed players who don't know things yet, you'll come across all these kinds as you use the GF more and more. Some you can help (uninformed), some you can try to help (dumb, with varying degrees of success, just never be mean to people), and others are just made for the ignore list. This time it sounds like you got a mean spirited one. Brush them off and add them to your /ignore list if you feel it's worth having 1 less healer option out there.

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AlixMV
08.19.2013 , 05:52 PM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by DaeHanMusa View Post
I was taking part in Hammer Station as an Assassin (flagged as damage) and the team's Operative/Healer was "running and gunning" the map, literally. Our team tank and the other teammate were straggling behind. So, I was left trying to manage aggro off of our team's Operative/Healer.

When we got to the Champion Bot, the Operative/Healer started to fire away well ahead of rest of team. I was the second to come, so I decided to use "taunt".
I have a few thoughts/reactions here different from what everyone else said:

1. You got booted from the FP--which means more than one person voted to kick you. If the Healer was being the crazy person and the Tank and other DPS were lagging behind, then what happened in there that another person would've wanted you out?

2. I disagree that, at that point or under those circumstances, it was your 'job' as the DPS to keep aggro off the healer. If the tank and DPS were lagging behind, I'd argue your 'job' is to stick with the Tank between pulls. If the Healer runs ahead and grabs aggro, then it's on them, and like other commenters said--let them die. (This doesn't go for when the group has gone into a pull together. /Then/ it's your job to help defend the Healer).

I'm also not sure if using Taunt in that situation was warranted, but since I wasn't there, I can't really decide on it.

All in all, it sounds like you got a Healer who doesn't know what they're doing and you might have gotten the raw end of the deal. OTOH, at least two people vote kicked you.

I'd definitely /ignore the Healer and hope for better PUGs next time.
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RogeAce
08.24.2013 , 10:03 PM | #16
So I come back to swtor after a break and I'm in a FP and I'm kicked from the FP for not space baring through the cut seens. I like watching the cut seens and I feel since it is part of the game I'm justified in watching them and if some a** holes out there don't like them then you shouldn't be playing swtor and should go play wow or some bull s*** like that because they don't have awesome cut seens like swtor.
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MatthewSphilli
09.10.2013 , 09:05 PM | #17
Can I just say, as a healer, I would fully expect to get kicked if I ever acted like that?

I mean seriously, no one ever had to explain to me that running into mobs ahead of the tank was NOT something the healer was supposed to do. There was a point when I was such a newb that I didn't know what a tank was, and I still understood that a healer was not someone who should ever go Leeroy Jenkins and jump into the fight head first.

How do people even decide to play like that? I mean you're the HEALER, you're supposed to be HEALING! It's right there in the job description.

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RikuvonDrake
09.11.2013 , 06:33 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by RogeAce View Post
So I come back to swtor after a break and I'm in a FP and I'm kicked from the FP for not space baring through the cut seens. I like watching the cut seens and I feel since it is part of the game I'm justified in watching them and if some a** holes out there don't like them then you shouldn't be playing swtor and should go play wow or some bull s*** like that because they don't have awesome cut seens like swtor.
Depending on what mode it was I can understand these people, of you enjoy story and RP you should go do story modes or play on a RP server and these kind of issues won't occur. Story mode is as the name says, for the story while hard modes is for the harder encounters (or daily :P). However if it was story mode you did I agree with you, that is bad manner, at least they can give you a warning before they kick you.
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