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DaeHanMusa
08.15.2013 , 09:20 PM | #1
Hey folks,
Hope all is well. Can anything be done to prevent unwarranted "team kicks". Yes, sometimes, the feature is needed, but I often think it's abused. This happened to me today...

I was taking part in Hammer Station as an Assassin (flagged as damage) and the team's Operative/Healer was "running and gunning" the map, literally. Our team tank and the other teammate were straggling behind. So, I was left trying to manage aggro off of our team's Operative/Healer.

When we got to the Champion Bot, the Operative/Healer started to fire away well ahead of rest of team. I was the second to come, so I decided to use "taunt". At that time, I realized that I had that power (which I had just gotten before the Flash Point). The Operative/Healer just went nuts on me. Asked: "Why did you use taunt???" When he/she asked this, I was not sure if I was being spoken to or the "other" Assassin was being spoken to...

I replied: "Are you talking to me?" The Operative/Healer went on a tirade because: "It was not my job...Why did I que as damage and not as Tank (because you have less HP than the "Tank")...How he/she was bothered to heal me (because i'm not the tank) and so on." Thus, I was booted from the team.

During the entire FP I did NOTHING to warrant any bad feelings. I even said: "Greetings all" in the beginning...

So, is there anything that can be done to stop team-kicks like this?

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Reallynotaknight
08.15.2013 , 09:42 PM | #2
If a healer decides to start pulls ahead of the team and relies on the tank to save it, just let it die. They need to learn, if the healer is trying to dps they will not do much in the way of healing.
Best advice I can give you is to join with another friend, so that you have some backup against pointless kicks. I have never been kicked but have had some attempts for stupid reasons. Now I just roll with at least one friend, usually trying to fill out the healer and tank rolls ourselves.

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Sarraan
08.16.2013 , 04:43 AM | #3
Yea unfortunately this happens. I was in a group last week where the group voted to kick our tank of all people, just because he had a long loading time at the start of the flash point. Some people are just impatient and/or stupid and the only thing you can do is ignore them to filter out the bad.

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ATAMIANM
08.16.2013 , 09:35 AM | #4
It's ironic the healer was "running and gunning" and then complained the DPS wasn't playing his role. As others have said, the ignore list is your friend, use it. Some people are not worth the agony of teaming with.
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sithBracer
08.16.2013 , 09:41 AM | #5
Since you have an assassin, just roll as a tank in GF fps and dps in pvp (or with friends in GF) to keep your dps skills up (as well as have some fun stealth capping). This way you can kick any morons you meet in GF and you yourself will usually be safe from being kicked (unless you are a sh*tty tank or you yourself act like a moron). Keeping 2 sets of gear is not tough and sin tanking is a lot of fun from what I hear.

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psandak
08.16.2013 , 09:49 AM | #6
Quote: Originally Posted by Reallynotaknight View Post
If a healer decides to start pulls ahead of the team and relies on the tank to save it, just let it die. They need to learn, if the healer is trying to dps they will not do much in the way of healing.
This goes for anyone on the team doing something counter to group cooperation.

I was once in a FP where a DPS would rush in before the tank. The tank and I (the healer) saved him a few times. We warned him several times, yelled at him several more, and then we simply stopped saving him. Funniest part was he never learned: he would die, release, run back, and just jump in again. Eventually he just quit .

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sithBracer
08.16.2013 , 09:59 AM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by psandak View Post
This goes for anyone on the team doing something counter to group cooperation.

I was once in a FP where a DPS would rush in before the tank. The tank and I (the healer) saved him a few times. We warned him several times, yelled at him several more, and then we simply stopped saving him. Funniest part was he never learned: he would die, release, run back, and just jump in again. Eventually he just quit .
Yeah, when a dumb dps wants to "tank" it's fun just letting him tank while you guys take out the small ones, let him get killed by the golds and silvers and then finish them off. When it's a healer doing it, your team is in serious trouble.

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ATAMIANM
08.16.2013 , 11:28 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by sithBracer View Post
Since you have an assassin, just roll as a tank in GF fps and dps in pvp (or with friends in GF) to keep your dps skills up (as well as have some fun stealth capping). This way you can kick any morons you meet in GF and you yourself will usually be safe from being kicked (unless you are a sh*tty tank or you yourself act like a moron). Keeping 2 sets of gear is not tough and sin tanking is a lot of fun from what I hear.
This is good advice. I have a second set of tank gear for my assassin, but I don't use it as often as I should. Tanking is not as fun IMO. But it leads to far shorter queue times.
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ThalordSin
08.16.2013 , 11:36 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by DaeHanMusa View Post
Hey folks,
Hope all is well. Can anything be done to prevent unwarranted "team kicks". Yes, sometimes, the feature is needed, but I often think it's abused. This happened to me today...

I was taking part in Hammer Station as an Assassin (flagged as damage) and the team's Operative/Healer was "running and gunning" the map, literally. Our team tank and the other teammate were straggling behind. So, I was left trying to manage aggro off of our team's Operative/Healer.

When we got to the Champion Bot, the Operative/Healer started to fire away well ahead of rest of team. I was the second to come, so I decided to use "taunt". At that time, I realized that I had that power (which I had just gotten before the Flash Point). The Operative/Healer just went nuts on me. Asked: "Why did you use taunt???" When he/she asked this, I was not sure if I was being spoken to or the "other" Assassin was being spoken to...

I replied: "Are you talking to me?" The Operative/Healer went on a tirade because: "It was not my job...Why did I que as damage and not as Tank (because you have less HP than the "Tank")...How he/she was bothered to heal me (because i'm not the tank) and so on." Thus, I was booted from the team.

During the entire FP I did NOTHING to warrant any bad feelings. I even said: "Greetings all" in the beginning...

So, is there anything that can be done to stop team-kicks like this?


well you see you got this little tiny word called "obedience." Let them die next time, "they" will either say you suck at healing, or "you" will try to save "them" and they ask you why. I get this all the time when I FP; alot of players just run and gun the entire flash point and space bar the entire story(Game) and then kick "you" from the flash point you waited so long in que for. The problem they say can be solved by adding friends and joining a guild. But if you dont have friends prior to swtor your going to be on your own struggling for power in a power system/structure designed for "trolls" and cyberwarefareagents to literally Ignore you bribe people to ignore you or just place you in your own server with NPCS and a few guys that ignore you. causing the 100 some "players" on the fleet to ignore you because this "well-known" PvPer or guild name treats you like a ragdoll. <<<insert all your quote unquote moments.>>>>>

I DPS and I tank, and I just begun Healing with a few of the classes the Force users and the Regular lifeforms. I also been playing since day one, I quit my job at JC penny on the other side of town downloading the client so im a fan of star wars if you can tell. 6am rather quest

Job was a prison cell anyways.

day one, its literally just been a race to 50-55, and the next character and then bragging rights of space bars and the majority vote from the gear you got (or gear your not gonna need or greed on) to the name of youre avatar and the race of it. Literally the game has a few players that actually are open for interpretation and playing the game (which doesn't even involve role playing but team work)



What I would say you should do about this problem is report them for spam, and wait for the next que.

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ThalordSin
08.16.2013 , 11:38 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by sithBracer View Post
Yeah, when a dumb dps wants to "tank" it's fun just letting him tank while you guys take out the small ones, let him get killed by the golds and silvers and then finish them off. When it's a healer doing it, your team is in serious trouble.
yeah but if you got good players using the interrupt moves, and the entire team is swapping taunts like a parade of team mates and not allowing death to happen...It shouldn't even have to think about taunting because the healer is God Himself