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The hate for moments of the films

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TalonVII
07.18.2013 , 02:40 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Its entirely unfair how much negativity Hayden receives for his role as Anakin, and frankly quite shameful. In the end he's a quality actor and I wouldn't have picked anyone else for the role, what let the character down was a smattering of poorly written lines. But in the end IMO it was an enjoyable performance.

Oh and the 501st weren't even on Endor. Everyone just assumes its them because Sidious says they are his best. When in fact it was Tempest Force. And people forget the part where the Ewoks get massacred. Poor little guys.
Oh hayden did some good acting in that movie. His parts with Sideous were great, you could actually see the hurt,and betrayal in his eyes, the hurt, when he found out who Palpatine was. And his best acting, was when he and Ewan were trading words over the lava.

When he was allowed to show genuine emotion, he was good. But some of his script, it was forced, and just wasn't right. Especially the scenes between him and Natalie.

He was good at genuine emotion, but when the emotion had to be forced out...not so good.
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07.18.2013 , 03:49 PM | #12
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The surprise attack started of with arrows ( a lethal weapon)
A lethal weapon when used against someone who's unarmoured, but such small bows against fully armoured futuristic soldiers? They wouldn't penetrate modern attempts at exoskeleton body armour, logically stormtrooper armour should be much better than our current tech.

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07.18.2013 , 04:18 PM | #13
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A lethal weapon when used against someone who's unarmoured, but such small bows against fully armoured futuristic soldiers? They wouldn't penetrate modern attempts at exoskeleton body armour, logically stormtrooper armour should be much better than our current tech.
you never know because the amour would of been mainly designed for laser bolts and designed without arrows being in mind, so it could have an unknown weakness against arrows

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Lordmird
07.18.2013 , 05:02 PM | #14
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Having watched all the films again quite recently i have found that the hate for some moments of the films has been exaggerated.
1) the ewoks beating the 501st- people make it out to be that the 501st got smashed by the ewoks, but they didnt, The surprise attack started of with arrows ( a lethal weapon) then the 501st hads the ewoks on the run till chewie stole the atst, then the tied turn as stone were dropped from high up, making it a good weapon, and the also used tree trunks which can be very heavy and roll fast.
2) To much cgi in the prequels- i thought that yes they did use cgi in places they didnt need to but i do not think it bad, it just would of been nice to have a set, And some parts of the films would of looked a lot worse without using cgi, i think the people who complain about this are just older fans who dont like change.
3) jaja - yes he is annoying, but for me i think he is one of the best characters of the films, because when i was younger i loved him and many young kids now love him to, and he was a great way of getting kids into star wars.
4) Hayden's acting- i feel sorry for him because he is getting a lot of slack of what i think is the scripts fault for having those cringy moments in making any actor look bad. I also think his character was a hard character to portray as he has to show so many emotions, what was really needed was an actor with more experience, what would of been hard to get as it was a young part.

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07.18.2013 , 05:58 PM | #15
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you never know because the amour would of been mainly designed for laser bolts and designed without arrows being in mind, so it could have an unknown weakness against arrows
I'm assuming they designed it with explosions in mind. If it can get pierced by an arrow fired from a light bow then shrapnel is going to rip it apart. Perhaps it was just poorly represented by the films, but the size of the bows combined with the short draw length means those arrows aren't going to pierce anything - a decent piece of plastic could have stopped them.

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07.19.2013 , 08:49 AM | #16
The two worst things in my opinion

1) Anakin as a space Jesus when he had no father, WHAT and WHY?

2) Padme died of a broken heart. There is a war going on and this is the route they took. HUH?

Everything else is acceptable but these two things were insane
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07.19.2013 , 11:15 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by kirorx View Post
The two worst things in my opinion

1) Anakin as a space Jesus when he had no father, WHAT and WHY?

2) Padme died of a broken heart. There is a war going on and this is the route they took. HUH?

Everything else is acceptable but these two things were insane
That is actually a thing. Stress can weaken your heart to the point of cardiac arrest. It is called Takotsubo cardiomyopathy.

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Selenial
07.19.2013 , 11:33 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Its entirely unfair how much negativity Hayden receives for his role as Anakin, and frankly quite shameful. In the end he's a quality actor and I wouldn't have picked anyone else for the role, what let the character down was a smattering of poorly written lines. But in the end IMO it was an enjoyable performance.

Oh and the 501st weren't even on Endor. Everyone just assumes its them because Sidious says they are his best. When in fact it was Tempest Force. And people forget the part where the Ewoks get massacred. Poor little guys.
Poor little things.
That's the worst moment of the film, where the little guy realises his compadre is dead.
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07.19.2013 , 11:36 AM | #19
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That is actually a thing. Stress can weaken your heart to the point of cardiac arrest. It is called Takotsubo cardiomyopathy.
Indeed, it also worsens under injury, when Anakin force choked her in anger, just made it worse emotionally and physically.

Another factor being the collapse of the republic into the empire, she dedicated her life to politics... How soul destroying would that be? Padme really is a tragic character...
Probably wouldn't have killed her without the choke though....
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Kaedusz
07.19.2013 , 01:25 PM | #20
Anakin looked too young in episode 3,maybe he should have had more makeup to make him appear a little older.There is hardly any change between him there and in episode 2,except for the eye scar and the hair.Other than that,i don't have complaints about him.
Also would have been better if he had more moments with yellow eyes,cus i think the actor is good at portraying dark characters,just as GL himself said.Basically he should have appeared as Vader without suit longer than he did.

Also there are many things specially in episode 3 that are done badly.There shouldn't be a book about it that clarifies things,everything should be clear from the movie itself and the book should just explore things in detail.The fight between Yoda and Sidious ,Sidious and Windu being a few examples.