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tunewalker
07.18.2013 , 04:18 PM | #181
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
The Star Destroyer was the smallest type of capital ship in the empire.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EF76_...escort_frigate

I beg to differ sir. Even the C90's corvettes were technically used by the Empire it was just the rebels stole most of them.

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LadyKulvax
07.18.2013 , 04:20 PM | #182
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/EF76_...escort_frigate

I beg to differ sir. Even the C90's corvettes were technically used by the Empire it was just the rebels stole most of them.
It was primarily used in an Escort role, it was very very rarely used as a capital ship, Star Destroyers were the capital ships of the Empire, the Imperial-I and Imperial-II above all else.
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07.18.2013 , 04:25 PM | #183
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
It was primarily used in an Escort role, it was very very rarely used as a capital ship, Star Destroyers were the capital ships of the Empire, the Imperial-I and Imperial-II above all else.
it was still a capital ship. star destroyers were the primary WAR SHIP. When I say Capital ship I don't mean used primarily as war only I mean anything that was a capital ship. Obviously I was counting these for the GA navy as well and they didn't use them in much beyond an escort manner either.

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LadyKulvax
07.18.2013 , 04:30 PM | #184
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
it was still a capital ship. star destroyers were the primary WAR SHIP. When I say Capital ship I don't mean used primarily as war only I mean anything that was a capital ship. Obviously I was counting these for the GA navy as well and they didn't use them in much beyond an escort manner either.
I never stated warships, I stated capital ships and the Nebulons were primarily escorts, they were not capital ships, they could act as such, but were not capital vessels, they were more than anything Frigates, a capital ship is a flagship of a group of vessels, the Star Destroyer was the main acting vessel.

Simply put an Escort Frigate is not a capital ship, only an escort vessel that can when needed act as a capital ship, it is as simple as that.

Just because it could doesn't mean it is.
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07.18.2013 , 04:36 PM | #185
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
I never stated warships, I stated capital ships and the Nebulons were primarily escorts, they were not capital ships, they could act as such, but were not capital vessels, they were more than anything Frigates, a capital ship is a flagship of a group of vessels, the Star Destroyer was the main acting vessel.

Simply put an Escort Frigate is not a capital ship, only an escort vessel that can when needed act as a capital ship, it is as simple as that.

Just because it could doesn't mean it is.
Frigates are a smaller classification of Capital ships... and escort frigate is a capital ship

how it was used is irrelevant.

"Capital ship was a general term that referred to any armed military starship that had a length greater than one hundred meters."


So when I say the Imperial navy likely had 50k Capital ships you now know what I mean. When I say the Galactic Alliance fleet had 200 capital ships per fleet again you now know what I mean. I would not say they had more then 40 cruisers/destroyers per fleet which by your definition would be their "capital ships".

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07.18.2013 , 04:45 PM | #186
Quote: Originally Posted by tunewalker View Post
Frigates are a smaller classification of Capital ships... and escort frigate is a capital ship

how it was used is irrelevant.

"Capital ship was a general term that referred to any armed military starship that had a length greater than one hundred meters."


So when I say the Imperial navy likely had 50k Capital ships you now know what I mean. When I say the Galactic Alliance fleet had 200 capital ships per fleet again you now know what I mean. I would not say they had more then 40 cruisers/destroyers per fleet which by your definition would be their "capital ships".
I am not referring to what you mean or what a general naval term means, the Imperial Navy of the Galactic Empire used Star Destroyers, primarily the Imperial-I and Imperial-II, of which there were around 25,000 by ROTJ as their capital ships.

That is all I am stating, nothing more.
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07.18.2013 , 04:46 PM | #187
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyKulvax View Post
I am not referring to what you mean or what a general naval term means, the Imperial Navy of the Galactic Empire used Star Destroyers, primarily the Imperial-I and Imperial-II, of which there were around 25,000 by ROTJ as their capital ships.

That is all I am stating, nothing more.
I would think they would have had more Victory-class star destroyers then imperial ones and I would think that when it said star destroyer's it would include those Victories.

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Beniboybling
07.18.2013 , 06:14 PM | #188
Wait? What are we discussing here? All I want to know if how big the Galactic Alliance Navy is in comparison to the Imperial, Separatist and Republic navies. There is no need for an argument.

EDIT: Oh and Rayla did you get my PM?

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07.18.2013 , 07:28 PM | #189
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Wait? What are we discussing here? All I want to know if how big the Galactic Alliance Navy is in comparison to the Imperial, Separatist and Republic navies. There is no need for an argument.

EDIT: Oh and Rayla did you get my PM?
I think that's what we were discussing.

Personally I am not sure but there is one thing we seem to know numbers on and that's this type of ship http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Nebul...Star_Destroyer

There seems to be around at least 30 by 35 ABY considering the information given about production being upped during the YV war. What is also known is that was the ship the GA fleet had the least amount of in terms cruisers and destroyers so when you take that into account and look at the number of variety they had in that category (with increased numbers for ones we know were heavily mass produced) I would say they had at least 450 cruisers/destroyers. this is of course not including Mediators (which I suspect they only had about 30 of) or Viscounts and SSD which all together seems only about 5. The MC 140's didn't come in till about 90 ABY so by this point some of the other ships were not in use any more. Nor does it include anything smaller. That being said...... ya the Imperial Navy makes this one look tiny unless we were to speculate there was a massive amount more then my calculations have said.