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TrillOG-
07.24.2013 , 09:10 PM | #81
Quote: Originally Posted by Leylea View Post
Today we tested (cleared 8-HC ID and than changed to 16-nim) these things:

Throwing an orb on a dead rat inside the cave.

Using the amulet inside the cave and then throwing the orb (by another player) on the armulet caster.
Nice of you to try it, something I'd try next time is casting the orb on them BEFORE they use the amulet.. reason I say this, is because the orb looks like it hangs around, while the amulet looks like an activate thing. Does the orb give you a buff or debuff?

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Leylea
07.25.2013 , 06:46 AM | #82
No, unfortunately the orb doesnt give u any buff or debuff. Its just the animation of the orb around the target. I never stopped the time of this animation, but it is very short and i would estimate something around 10-15 seconds.

I am not sure if there is a kind of hidden buff/debuff u cant see but the game is working with. Torhead says the duration is about 15000 seconds(?) but i badly doubt that.

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07.25.2013 , 07:06 AM | #83
Quote: Originally Posted by Leylea View Post
No, unfortunately the orb doesnt give u any buff or debuff. Its just the animation of the orb around the target. I never stopped the time of this animation, but it is very short and i would estimate something around 10-15 seconds.

I am not sure if there is a kind of hidden buff/debuff u cant see but the game is working with. Torhead says the duration is about 15000 seconds(?) but i badly doubt that.
That's about 4 hours 12 minutes.

A ridiculous time for a buff, not a believable time
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07.25.2013 , 12:39 PM | #84
I'd give it a shot anyway, you might be right and the orb works with the amulet. If that doesnt work I have no clue I'm out of ideas.

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07.25.2013 , 02:05 PM | #85
Alrighty, I will take the few minutes to write up every single idea we've had, discussed, tried, ignored, etc.

So, according to the response dip got, we are going off the assumption that this is Nightmare S+V related - given previous steps - we are also going to say 16 man only. I will ignore anything that doesn't fit those three things as a basis.

-We have searched every square inch of the desert by Dash'Roode after killing him - there remains a very slight possibility that you should pop an environmental shield before killing him and search but this is extremely unlikely.

-We have thoroughly searched the area between Dash and Titan, but there isn't much of anything to even consider.

-We are highly interested in the area behind the gate when entering Titan 6's pen - the same or a similar gate is found before going to Olok from Ops Chief. I'll get back to this in a minute.

-We have done about everything that can be done with the cave and sarlacc and we are pretty much ruling them out at this point.

-We think it is possible that you use the amulet to make something targetable/clickable and then you can use the orb on it to animate/summon it ... more on this down below

-We have translated nearly every sign we could find that is written in aurabesh into english - no obvious clues came from this.

-We have had no exploration in the areas after Olok but from our discussions the best bets have to do with the bridge or something in Styrak's room ....

-In Styrak's room there are a number of things of interest:
-His Throne
-The giant statue behind his throne
-The two Kell Dragons
-The force ghosts

We are mostly ruling out the ghosts of the dreadguards. The other three things are our top three possibilities, currently.

So back to using the amulet to make something clickable - the amulet might make the statue clickable, then you can animate him. The amulet might do something to make something appear on the throne. The orb would be used to either animate the statue, something on the throne, or the kell dragon/s.

I am personally convinced that we need to find something clickable that we can cast the orb on - I still think it is the kell dragons - Severity would be the only ones at this moment to test that (they already shared their weird experience the first time - and that needs to be explored further).


Some other notes of things we tried:
-We have used the orb on the mobs above the sarlacc and then knocked them into the sarlacc. We have casted on ourselves and jumped in twice.
-We have used the amulet in the cave room (twice) and we have casted the orb on ourselves while in that room.
-We have used the amulet in the fountain before olok's room.
-We have used the amulet in a "unique" room in the ops chief city area shortly after killing him.


Lastly some other things of note ...
There is the firefly lake in Op's Chief city we have done nothing with.
We would like to try casting amulet in Titan 6 room but haven't yet (to try opening the gate or something)
We have done nothing with regards to the mini bosses and the amulet/orb
The mini boss before Ops Chief event (after Thrasher) there is a gate there that has a good amount of room behind it. I've looked behind it by clipping and there's a fairly large open platform - I'd like to experiment more with this.
It is possible we need to treat this like a datacron and use jumping/terrain to get to areas we wouldn't normally be able to get in. It is also possible that you need to use the amulet in one area and the orb in an entirely different one (perhaps within a time frame).
It is possible we need to attain the speed run titles before trying anything. It is also possible that everyone needs to be wearing their dread masks when the amulet is pushed.
A lot of our testing has been done when most people have left the ops, it is possible the "event" is locked when you have less than a full raid in there.

That's everything I've got. We really aren't interested in testing anything too hard until we have cleared Styrak - since we still think the kell dragon's are the mostly likely piece. If those fail (for sure) then we will begin trying some of the more creative stuff.

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OriginalTomoka
07.26.2013 , 12:09 AM | #86
The dead Kell Dragon bones (lore object) right before the cave to the final boss. Quite literally a "bridge" boss.

That is all.

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KarethRiker
07.26.2013 , 12:49 AM | #87
We found a room in the Oasis City with a mini boss (didn't know it was there). There are also a bunch of kolto tank like things (ala Lorrick's room). Didn't have our orb with us but seemed an interesting room to explore. Not sure if that is what you meant by weird room Nibbon. I wonder if anything happpens with the tanks when you use the amulet.
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07.26.2013 , 05:32 AM | #88
The Operations Chief's City seems to be mysterious and secret in nature, the fact you are rushed through it to get to the boss makes me wonder if they are trying to hide something. We thought the mini-boss area could possibly have something to do with it, but Im not real sold on that particular room.

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Rahizm
07.30.2013 , 11:02 AM | #89
Some other thing I thought about. The button on the Titan-6 mount. What if that does anything? :P Like say, open the gate in the Titan-6 area if you're near it?

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WillHolmes
07.30.2013 , 12:49 PM | #90
Has anyone gotten around to casting both items on a person at the same time in the cave above the stairs, i noticed someone tired the womp rats but lets get this on a person same as the TFB spawned, try amulet then hypergate while effect is still on them kinda thing.
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