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Rule of Two confusion in SWTOR

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Rule of Two confusion in SWTOR

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TheKnighted
05.23.2013 , 01:05 PM | #1
I'm not sure if the Rule of Two has been implemented but if it has, how can there be so many Sith at one time? I know it is a more of a guideline rather than a law but I'm still a bit confused.

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JosephPeck
05.23.2013 , 01:12 PM | #2
The idea of the rule of two was more or less created by Revan. Darth Bane learns about the rule of two from a holocron created by Revan and then feels the Brotherhood of Darkness (the sith organization that is created after the fall of the current empire) is too weak and must be destroyed thus leading to Bane tricking Kaas into using the thought bomb that destroys that particular organization on Ruusan leaving Bane as the last Sith Lord as which point he takes on an apprentice implementing the rule of two. *finally takes a breath* this all of course happens after the swtor timeline. Hope this helps. There's actually a serious of books that explains it better, all about Darth Bane.

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captaincr
05.23.2013 , 03:25 PM | #3
Reven came up with the rule of two after he left the Sith Empire, it was never conceived of during his time with the Emperor.

It would be logical to think that after he saw all of the backstabbing and such on Drummond Kas that he came up with and implemented the rule of two.

But that knowledge died when he was captured and redeemed and we saw the group of three and the brotherhood of darkness and a bunch of other newly crowned Darth's gathering followers around them.

Only once Bane found and embraced Reven's holocron did the rule of two get implemented and you could argue that it had the best results.

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Bird_of_Thunder
05.23.2013 , 08:21 PM | #4
easy: didnt exist in SWTOR
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Kaedusz
05.24.2013 , 08:00 AM | #5
Rule of Two was created by Darth Bane,not Revan.

Revan only said that 1 master must have 1 real aprentice.Bane implemented this to the whole sith order.

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sell-dog
05.24.2013 , 12:20 PM | #6
The Bane trilogy is a great trilogy to read. Among my favorite books.

Anyone else notice an inconsistantcy between the Rule of Two and in Ep. 1? At the end during Qui-Gon's death ceremony, Mace Windu tells Yoda that the mysterious warrior was a Sith Lord. Yoda then replies "Always two there are. No more. No Less". Then they ponder as to whether it was the master or apprentice that was destroyed.

Bane's revolutionary idea was kept secret from the Jedi and the Jedi thought the Sith were extinct. Up to this point, the only Sith the Jedi knew of were the large-scale legions of Sith as in this game. Inconsistency? Did Yoda suddenly come to this realization? Thoughts?
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captaincr
05.24.2013 , 12:34 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by Kaedusz View Post
Rule of Two was created by Darth Bane,not Revan.

Revan only said that 1 master must have 1 real aprentice.Bane implemented this to the whole sith order.
Kind of, he also stated that the power of the dark side should be focused on as few force users as possible, so it wasn't much of a leap for Bane to his Banite philosophy

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captaincr
05.24.2013 , 12:38 PM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by sell-dog View Post
The Bane trilogy is a great trilogy to read. Among my favorite books.

Anyone else notice an inconsistantcy between the Rule of Two and in Ep. 1? At the end during Qui-Gon's death ceremony, Mace Windu tells Yoda that the mysterious warrior was a Sith Lord. Yoda then replies "Always two there are. No more. No Less". Then they ponder as to whether it was the master or apprentice that was destroyed.

Bane's revolutionary idea was kept secret from the Jedi and the Jedi thought the Sith were extinct. Up to this point, the only Sith the Jedi knew of were the large-scale legions of Sith as in this game. Inconsistency? Did Yoda suddenly come to this realization? Thoughts?
I know its EU, but even in the revenge of the Sith novel, Anakin talked about the forbidden archives where the Jedi had captured Sith Holocrons, Palpatine also mused about it in Dark Lord after he sent Vader to the Jedi Temple to capture them, some of which were clever forgeries, but the rule of two could have been there.

The Jedi vs Sith Source book was suppossed to have been written by a Jedi Archivist, she certainly knew about the rule of two.

Yoda had access to all knowledge at the temple.

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Aurbere
05.24.2013 , 12:42 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by sell-dog View Post
The Bane trilogy is a great trilogy to read. Among my favorite books.

Anyone else notice an inconsistantcy between the Rule of Two and in Ep. 1? At the end during Qui-Gon's death ceremony, Mace Windu tells Yoda that the mysterious warrior was a Sith Lord. Yoda then replies "Always two there are. No more. No Less". Then they ponder as to whether it was the master or apprentice that was destroyed.

Bane's revolutionary idea was kept secret from the Jedi and the Jedi thought the Sith were extinct. Up to this point, the only Sith the Jedi knew of were the large-scale legions of Sith as in this game. Inconsistency? Did Yoda suddenly come to this realization? Thoughts?
A rogue Jedi learns of the Rule of Two and tells the Jedi. His words were disregarded as the ramblings of a madman (because he had gone kinda insane), so the warning was ignored.

Well, it wasn't really a warning. The Jedi says something along the lines that Yoda says in TPM. So the Jedi didn't really know a great deal about what he was talking about.
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sell-dog
05.24.2013 , 01:41 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by Aurbere View Post
A rogue Jedi learns of the Rule of Two and tells the Jedi. His words were disregarded as the ramblings of a madman (because he had gone kinda insane), so the warning was ignored.

Well, it wasn't really a warning. The Jedi says something along the lines that Yoda says in TPM. So the Jedi didn't really know a great deal about what he was talking about.
Thanks for the info. The Rogue Jedi, that wasn't Set Harth or anyone else from the Bane trilogy was it? Was it that little incursion around 200 BBY I read about on Yoda's page?
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