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Sith Warrior to kill Master Satele ?( READ ME )

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Sith Warrior to kill Master Satele ?( READ ME )

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LadyDrusilla
04.22.2013 , 10:38 PM | #21
Quote: Originally Posted by Kampori View Post
Pretty harsh to call it a 'silly idea' just like that. It's not a silly idea at all, it's actually a pretty decent idea (or maybe not decent but certainly a fair idea, based on what he said in spoiler)

Not saying every class story should be mirrored, but some sort of retribution and large blow to the Republic is more than due (however Makeb and hopefully the next string of content will be much more pro-Empire. Time of the Empire to Strike Back, at last)
No good reason has been given to kill her off other than 'well the Emperor was killed', so it just ti t* for tat for the sake of it. That is silly. If a compelling reason for killing her off can be given that advances the story then maybe.

Quote: Originally Posted by GillianS View Post
this wouldnt be a mirror quest, closest thing to a mirror quest would be sith warrior killing supreme chancellor
Killing the most senior Jedi is far more analogous to killing the most senior Sith than it is with killing the most senior non-Force user civilian leader.


*For crying out loud BW ti t is not always an obscenity, it's a type of bird and ti t for that has no sexual connotations.
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Kampori
04.23.2013 , 03:58 AM | #22
Quote: Originally Posted by LadyDrusilla View Post
No good reason has been given to kill her off other than 'well the Emperor was killed', so it just ti t* for tat for the sake of it. That is silly. If a compelling reason for killing her off can be given that advances the story then maybe.


Killing the most senior Jedi is far more analogous to killing the most senior Sith than it is with killing the most senior non-Force user civilian leader.


*For crying out loud BW ti t is not always an obscenity, it's a type of bird and ti t for that has no sexual connotations.
Ridiculous answer. No good reason? How about the fact she is the Grand Master of the Jedi? Killing her (would, similar to 'killing' the Emperor) be a massive blow to the Republic, symbolic if anything. No, she isn't on the front lines, she is old and washed up. But then, so is the Emperor basically (just non-existent to the Empire).
I'd say the entire Empire would love to see that ***** dead
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yoomazir
04.23.2013 , 04:08 AM | #23
I don't mind if they kill her or turn into the dark side, she was a Jedi and yet she fell pregnant? And on top of that she decides to ger rid of him ro focus on her career? GFTO... just joking, I know eveything is great now bewteen her, her son & Malcom.

But more seriously, the Empire lost a few memorbale characters, while the Republic not so much, I think sooner or later they'll need to compensate that.

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Darth-Obvious
04.23.2013 , 04:15 AM | #24
Quote: Originally Posted by Kampori View Post
Ridiculous answer. No good reason? How about the fact she is the Grand Master of the Jedi? Killing her (would, similar to 'killing' the Emperor) be a massive blow to the Republic, symbolic if anything. No, she isn't on the front lines, she is old and washed up. But then, so is the Emperor basically (just non-existent to the Empire).
I'd say the entire Empire would love to see that ***** dead
Except the Emperor wasn't killed.

Saying that Satele should die because the Emperor died makes no sense considering it was only the Emperor's Voice that was killed.

Also it's quite clear that Satele's "mirror" has always been Malgas, not the Emperor.

You also gotta keep in mind that Satele is voiced by one of Bioware's and fan's favorite actresses Jennifer Hale. In other words they'll want to keep her (Jennifer) around because of who she is, and what they like. I'm aware that Hale also voices the female Trooper and various other NPCs, vendors, etc, in the game too.

It's fine that players want to fight/defeat/kill Satele, but the reason for doing so as stated by the TC isn't a very good reason, on multiple levels. Like imagine if that was the in-game story reason for killing off, ie "we gotta get her cause they got him!" Sounds dumb right when you think of it that way? Which is another strong reason why it's not a good idea to do it simply because the JK killed the Emperor('s Voice)

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Darth-Obvious
04.23.2013 , 04:26 AM | #25
Quote: Originally Posted by yoomazir View Post
But more seriously, the Empire lost a few memorbale characters, while the Republic not so much, I think sooner or later they'll need to compensate that.
That's actually not true.

The reason it seems that way is because the Empire has more memorable characters than the Republic does. Alot of the Rep characters are fairly boring do the right thing, by the book types. It also doesn't help that the Rep armor/clothing is so much more boring compared to what you see alot of characters on the Empire side wearing, especially the Sith. For instance you don't have anybody on the Rep side that looks like Jadus or Marr.

Satele seems like a larger than life figure in terms of the Republic considering how frequently you see her, ie the pre-rendered movies, the Flashpoint briefings, Class Quests, etc, but she's really the only character the Republic has like that, which would be a good reason why to not kill her off, since she's really the only memorable or prominent character the Republic has. Note how almost everybody playing an Empire character is aware of Satele while very few are probably aware of Malcolm outside the Hope cinematic.

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zzoorrzz
04.23.2013 , 05:53 AM | #26
She has to die without a single shred of doubt. I don't care who does it, but it needs to be done. She and Malgus both were faces of their factions even before the game came out. There is no other option now when Malgus is dead.

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LadyDrusilla
04.23.2013 , 06:16 AM | #27
Quote: Originally Posted by Kampori View Post
Ridiculous answer. No good reason? How about the fact she is the Grand Master of the Jedi? Killing her (would, similar to 'killing' the Emperor) be a massive blow to the Republic, symbolic if anything. No, she isn't on the front lines, she is old and washed up. But then, so is the Emperor basically (just non-existent to the Empire).
I'd say the entire Empire would love to see that ***** dead
You are confusing her being a legitimate target in-universe with being a good reason from a narrative perspecitve. IF you are going to kill one of the faces of SWTOR, one of the few females as well, it has to be for a good narrative reason. 'A symbolic blow to the Republic' is a good reason for the Empire to target her, not a good reason for her to actually be killed.

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She has to die without a single shred of doubt. I don't care who does it, but it needs to be done. She and Malgus both were faces of their factions even before the game came out. There is no other option now when Malgus is dead.
Malgus being killed (stupidly in my opinion) does not make a good or sufficient reason to kill off Satele Shan.
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DarthAeonis
04.23.2013 , 08:12 AM | #28
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Sith Emperor is gonna be final boss for both sides in my opinion. This guy is a threat for the whole galaxy. So I see no reason for her to be killed because of JK storyline.
BTW beware of spoiler. forgot to wrap and dont feel like doin it now.... :P

i slightyly disaggree with that tho its certainly possible. the reason being this... as the SW u r given alot of options to choose ur side. u couldve been a total jerk to baras or be the perfect apprentice (as i was) and the same goes for ur position as wrath except the emperor actual respects u cuz ur literally his sword. if anything i think the SW will allign himself with the emperor. wheter or not he follows thru would be the darkside lightside choice. but at this time he'd go thru the immortality ritual so his future would already be cemented. and i think the emp will eventually realise wiping out all life would be foolish. the SW literally has the potential to become the next emp. he's literallly only one step away from that goal. if he wanted to pursue it. hes beaten the voice once. (as has the jedi) and that wasnt even his final quest :P. imo the SW could become the strongest person in the galaxy of this era. now how that actually modern timeline who knows cuz we all know the sith eventually fall... but we have like a 1000 years before we even have to worry bout that. but back to the OP i wanna kill satele... but not yet. it needs to culminate into an epic event. where even better its a FP (or story quest) where her and Revan team up and she ends up dying protecting her ancestor or son. theres lots of options. but i do think the death of satele would be a great plot point in the game and have a huge win for the emp finally.... end of makeb def showed something big was coming. or hell Marr assassinating satele would be EPIC. idk.... i have lits of ideas and theories but im sure many others do as well.
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TheWhiteBarontwo
04.23.2013 , 08:18 AM | #29
She's bloody annoying I'd love to take her head off.

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Ernost
04.23.2013 , 08:36 AM | #30
In most Star Wars lore they don't seem to kill off a Jedi Grand Master until someone powerful enough to take their place comes along. The only way I see her dying is sacrificing herself to 'save the republic' either directly or indirectly by saving the person who will be her successor.