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The reason why people leave.

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Tsukuni
04.23.2013 , 05:16 AM | #11
People leave because they want to no need for drama

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AlrikFassbauer
04.23.2013 , 08:34 AM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by IAAIAO View Post
You have a few categories of players here :

The nice ones, low profiling, helpful. 10%

The elitists acting like they came on this world with all the knowledge. 50% (yes the major part as newcomers leaving)

The pugs, not using them braincells when playing. 30%

The arrogant ones, thinking they're good because they've read strategies and numbers. 10%
Eliticists and Arrogant Ones are usually those who actively defend "their game" so much that no-one shall enter it again. It's "their" game, and everyone else who enters is either

- a Newbie - and thus forgettable
- a Noob - and thus forgettable, too

and all that matters to them is their closed circles. They do not want "fresh blood" within the game !

It's like this : http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.ph...eringToTheBase

They might also fit into this category : http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/FanDumb

I think that this is what the original poster *really* means.

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Eshmael
04.23.2013 , 12:53 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by canesfanjax View Post
And it looks like you're one of those arrogant people he was referring to...this community does suck as does the game itself to be honest this game is very broken.
I am arrogant just because i do not believe he manges to do 8x 50-120h of story content to start with, in less then 2 weeks?!
Ok.
The "Esh" Legacy - LVL 690

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Eshmael
04.23.2013 , 12:56 PM | #14
1. SWtor said they are dropping. From the first month after release till f2p start, when it changed.
4. And tomorrow night i will find you and hunt you down ... be my ghul little e-peen.
The "Esh" Legacy - LVL 690

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IAAIAO
04.23.2013 , 01:11 PM | #15
Op, Inq, Warrior. So no I didn't clear all of the stories but most of them and all the endgame but that's not the point.

Alrik that's exactly what I meant.

I just hope people will realize how much is the issue critical.

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Scindus
04.23.2013 , 02:10 PM | #16
Just going to throw my two cents into the bucket here.
I have played a pretty wide range of mmo's over nearly two decades, and I can honestly say that SWTOR has one of the worst communities from an overall perspective I have ever seen. That is just going off the average of what I witness in General Chat only. I was somewhat staggered by it, having recently come from another smaller mmo that had a smaller, albeit, much tighter community. There, if someone was really a total ******, they would quickly get isolated from 95% of the endgame community. And the GM's would also personally log on at random times, which was something of a moderator system, randomly active yes, but just *knowing* that a GM could possibly be on and see what was being said in open chat, helped to tone down some peoples driving need to run wild with internet anonymity.
I have seen a lot of crap talk, epeen flaunting, and harassment in my years of playing mmo's, but really, SWTOR has taken the crown for having the most saturated amount of this kind of behavior I have *ever* seen. The only time that I do not see an average of 3-4 people spewing bile into general chat, is when I am on during the extremely late night and AM time ranges, the opposite of peak time for server population.

It really is horrible for anyone coming into the game who is expecting or hoping for something of a positive community to try and join. I'm not saying that there isn't some good people, and some good guilds, and therefor, some good social "inner circles" that exist, there certainly is. That is the issue though, those are within there own circles, the majority of those within good guilds, full of good people, likely turn general chat off ( and I cannot blame them in the slightest ) and likely use it as little as possible.
This leaves the average newcomer being assaulted in general chat by a near constant bombardment of appalling behavior without any real sort of moderating taking place, at all. This will give a very negative view of the overall community for those new players coming in who will see that as a representation of the majority and be unaware of how to really go about getting help or into a better social atmosphere without just outright leaving the game. It serves as a giant neon sign for others, telling them that it is completely fine for them to join right in, and let loose with every twisted inner need for attention through hostile, repulsive, and/or extremely explicit rants, remarks, statements, and random commentary.

TL;DR - Overall Community Appearance to the average new player = Atrocious.
Sarcasm, trolling, narcissism, and rants are always present in MMO's, SWTOR just appears to be overflowing with it due to many factors, several of which could definitely be addressed and improved.

Try and remember people, just because your online and not looking someone in the face, doesn't mean that you should ignore the general social attitude of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".

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sdgiasyui
04.23.2013 , 04:51 PM | #17
The swtor community is really really bad.On almost every planet im on, there is always a few, i know it all guys, arrogant and ignorant.Usually i just add them to the ignorer list, which is getting pretty long.

Ive played countless of MMO, however swtor community is almost as bad as Wow, and Wow has THE most terrible community.

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Count_Haake
04.24.2013 , 12:48 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by canesfanjax View Post
And it looks like you're one of those arrogant people he was referring to...this community does suck as does the game itself to be honest this game is very broken.
Okay, then just leave. Simply Go. God be with you but just go.

I'm one of the newcomers (more or less) the OP mentioned. And you know what p*sses me off the most? So called veterans (or many times: relative newcomers as well) who think they know how everything should work. I take a look into the forums and see guys like the OP, like you, like a hundred others, who feel the urge to present themselves to the rest of the community and tell all those fools how sh*tty the game is.

Noone cares for your opinion. Especially not those who don't want their game experience and fun spoilt by you. If you don't like the game anymore: noone will miss you, noone needs you. Go search for an audience that cares about your pathetic performance elsewhere.

PS: This doesn't go out to anyone expressing legitimate critique. It goes out to all the drama queens, cry babies and all those craving for recognition by bashing the game and the devs.

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IAAIAO
04.24.2013 , 02:04 AM | #19
Quote: Originally Posted by Count_Haake View Post
Okay, then just leave. Simply Go. God be with you but just go.

I'm one of the newcomers (more or less) the OP mentioned. And you know what p*sses me off the most? So called veterans (or many times: relative newcomers as well) who think they know how everything should work. I take a look into the forums and see guys like the OP, like you, like a hundred others, who feel the urge to present themselves to the rest of the community and tell all those fools how sh*tty the game is.

Noone cares for your opinion. Especially not those who don't want their game experience and fun spoilt by you. If you don't like the game anymore: noone will miss you, noone needs you. Go search for an audience that cares about your pathetic performance elsewhere.

PS: This doesn't go out to anyone expressing legitimate critique. It goes out to all the drama queens, cry babies and all those craving for recognition by bashing the game and the devs.
You just proved my point by stating all of this bs. And by misreading posts (I never mentioned newcomers as an issue).

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sithgaroin
04.24.2013 , 03:01 AM | #20
Quote: Originally Posted by Scindus View Post
Just going to throw my two cents into the bucket here.
I have played a pretty wide range of mmo's over nearly two decades, and I can honestly say that SWTOR has one of the worst communities from an overall perspective I have ever seen. That is just going off the average of what I witness in General Chat only. I was somewhat staggered by it, having recently come from another smaller mmo that had a smaller, albeit, much tighter community. There, if someone was really a total ******, they would quickly get isolated from 95% of the endgame community. And the GM's would also personally log on at random times, which was something of a moderator system, randomly active yes, but just *knowing* that a GM could possibly be on and see what was being said in open chat, helped to tone down some peoples driving need to run wild with internet anonymity.
I have seen a lot of crap talk, epeen flaunting, and harassment in my years of playing mmo's, but really, SWTOR has taken the crown for having the most saturated amount of this kind of behavior I have *ever* seen. The only time that I do not see an average of 3-4 people spewing bile into general chat, is when I am on during the extremely late night and AM time ranges, the opposite of peak time for server population.

It really is horrible for anyone coming into the game who is expecting or hoping for something of a positive community to try and join. I'm not saying that there isn't some good people, and some good guilds, and therefor, some good social "inner circles" that exist, there certainly is. That is the issue though, those are within there own circles, the majority of those within good guilds, full of good people, likely turn general chat off ( and I cannot blame them in the slightest ) and likely use it as little as possible.
This leaves the average newcomer being assaulted in general chat by a near constant bombardment of appalling behavior without any real sort of moderating taking place, at all. This will give a very negative view of the overall community for those new players coming in who will see that as a representation of the majority and be unaware of how to really go about getting help or into a better social atmosphere without just outright leaving the game. It serves as a giant neon sign for others, telling them that it is completely fine for them to join right in, and let loose with every twisted inner need for attention through hostile, repulsive, and/or extremely explicit rants, remarks, statements, and random commentary.

TL;DR - Overall Community Appearance to the average new player = Atrocious.
Sarcasm, trolling, narcissism, and rants are always present in MMO's, SWTOR just appears to be overflowing with it due to many factors, several of which could definitely be addressed and improved.

Try and remember people, just because your online and not looking someone in the face, doesn't mean that you should ignore the general social attitude of "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you".
well said my friend