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The reason why people leave.

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The reason why people leave.

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IAAIAO
04.21.2013 , 03:24 PM | #1
Hi,

I just canceled my subscription after a few months playing.

Started at the Beta, then left, then came out with a new account.

A few things had been fixed at this time so I decided to get in again.

I'm leaving swtor definitely, as many players, and I'm not doing this topic to drain attention or stuff, but to cast a new light on the community situation.

Comms limit has not been fixed despite the fact you promised to by the way. But that's not the point.

The problem with this game is the community, and this is a major issue when it's about MMORPGS.

You have a few categories of players here :

The nice ones, low profiling, helpful. 10%

The elitists acting like they came on this world with all the knowledge. 50% (yes the major part as newcomers leaving)

The pugs, not using them braincells when playing. 30%

The arrogant ones, thinking they're good because they've read strategies and numbers. 10%


It makes this game really bad and even though I've met some nice people, it was too much ******** for a long time player like me (Tabula Rasa, Swg, DAOC etc...).

So I've decided to leave after a content clear.

I'm just hoping that the community will get better for these staying. Good luck with that.

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Eshmael
04.21.2013 , 04:20 PM | #2
1. Commendationlimit will be changed at tuesday, and was allready changed from the first pts installment.
2. This game is gaining subs since september last year.
3. Why on earth cant anyone just go if he or she do not like the game or any aspect of it?

Edit: BEsides this, i would bet 1000$ that you have not cleared the content.
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canesfanjax
04.21.2013 , 04:32 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by Eshmael View Post
1. Commendationlimit will be changed at tuesday, and was allready changed from the first pts installment.
2. This game is gaining subs since september last year.
3. Why on earth cant anyone just go if he or she do not like the game or any aspect of it?

Edit: BEsides this, i would bet 1000$ that you have not cleared the content.
And it looks like you're one of those arrogant people he was referring to...this community does suck as does the game itself to be honest this game is very broken.

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Quendishir
04.21.2013 , 04:48 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Eshmael View Post
1. Commendationlimit will be changed at tuesday, and was allready changed from the first pts installment.
2. This game is gaining subs since september last year.
3. Why on earth cant anyone just go if he or she do not like the game or any aspect of it?

Edit: BEsides this, i would bet 1000$ that you have not cleared the content.
1.) Every game has been claiming "additional subscribers" for years. During "Monoclegate" for EvE Online, CCP claimed a "marked increase in subscriptions", when in reality there was the exact opposite (there was even a thread they locked two days later in which thousands of players said the exact opposite). No game says, "Yeah, we had a massive drop in subscriptions". You'll only hear something when there are positive numbers, and even then it doesn't mean much. You'll rarely see actual numbers being thrown about.

2.) People air grievances all the time, many not as a source of drama but more as a way to say, "Here's the reasons I'm leaving". I've done it before, and many times, the post contributes enough that the game changes (EvE Online, once again as my example, is changing and implementing many of the changes some of us *****ed and moaned for for years in order to keep us).

3.) Progression means something between "jack" and "****" when it comes to people quitting. I quit World of Warcraft during Wrath of the Lich King because I hated the way progression was set up. I didn't enjoy having dumbed-down raids for people to go through. I wanted a challenge, which Cataclysm gave me (thankfully!).

4.) In every "I'm leaving and here's why!" thread, I can count on bads like you to run in here and ***** about the OP, then flaunt your e-peen like it means something. I'd tell you to go get some sun, but considering you've probably been in mommy's basement for too long, you'd probably explode like a vampire.

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MSchuyler
04.21.2013 , 05:48 PM | #5
I clicked on this thread hoping to find someone with some insights. I should have known. It's just another "I'm leaving!" thread with no insight whatsoever. Where did this guy come up with his percentages? There's no evidence they have anything to do with reality. He's making them up.

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Mymph
04.22.2013 , 08:58 AM | #6
People complain too much about the "elites", some people do come off the wrong way yes but I've seen countless people who want their hand held through content or to be carried, all they expect is for you to carry your own weight especially if they are going to be sharing loot with you ( in FP and OPS cases).
Also a decent amount of the new players like to think they know everything also or don't care to learn, If I'm explaining to you for 10mins how CC works and why it is needed in our case to clear a certain heroic 4 you better listen because I'm not up for wiping countless times.
The best is however the people who don't understand the mechanics or even try to read up on them and blame others, I had a guy yelling at me because he thought I was healing a droid enemy or the people who can't seem to grasp that damage breaks CC ( Out of Combat CC) after I've told you 10 times not to hit the CC'd targets.

Point is that you will find these people in all shapes and sizes, new or old, this MMO or that MMO. The best you can do is join a good helpful guild (which you would be surprised to find out that a lot of them exist even some with "elites" who not only help but share their knowledge if you are willing)
"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal."

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IAAIAO
04.23.2013 , 02:15 AM | #7
I couldn't respond earlier as I'm keeping getting logged out of the forums whenever I access it.

This is not a "I'm leaving" topic, just a way for me to express how much I am disappointed by the community.

For the insights, it's not worth providing feed-backs as I already gave a lot to this community (I've tried) and eventually got in these situations.

For the numbers, if you'd use your brain cells you'd know that it's just a way for me to visualize it.

For the "elites" thing, I was in a progression group so I was a part of this, but I never EVER acted like I was the ****, like I was born with all the knowledge, not accepting that people could learn in the process.

But that's what the others were doing, and that was the same **** everywhere else on the server.

People need to learn respect, especially in a social game.

Second I've seen a lot of cyber bullying, not on me but I've seen it almost every day, and sometimes it reaches a critical point.

Third, still no GMS online and no controls for minors, and this is unacceptable. I don't personally care bout x rated language and stuff but come on, you could be sued for that. Filters don't solve everything btw.

I appreciate the support otherwise.

PS : Yes I've cleared the whole content, on Imp side. Didn't up my alt on Pub side.

PS2 : Every games claim population increase, this is a public relationships (pr) stunt to comfort sharers. The market is really sensitive with announcements. This game has a general population decrease (asian servers closing, some european ones really low on the average) and the community is probably one of the reasons why.

I've never seen as many issues with people in other games lately.

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Karkais
04.23.2013 , 02:25 AM | #8
Guess what causes the community to take a dive? It's called free-to-play.
"What is a Sith? Over time, the beliefs have changed, but one constant has remained. The imposition of one's will on the force, on the environment surrounding one, on the galaxy itself." - Darth Wyyrlok III

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IAAIAO
04.23.2013 , 02:28 AM | #9
That might be that too, besides elitists growing their e peen.

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Karkais
04.23.2013 , 04:52 AM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by IAAIAO View Post
That might be that too, besides elitists growing their e peen.
Large percentage of F2Pers seem to be the complainer type, at least the loudest ones. The ones that complain about everything, even if they dont have to pay for it.
"What is a Sith? Over time, the beliefs have changed, but one constant has remained. The imposition of one's will on the force, on the environment surrounding one, on the galaxy itself." - Darth Wyyrlok III