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Bastion or Harbinger for Rateds?

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Bastion or Harbinger for Rateds?

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JediMasterSLC
03.28.2013 , 09:10 PM | #11
Quote: Originally Posted by IAmViiOLENT View Post
Early on when harbinger had its comp and better players playing on the PTS, we did win the majority, later on we lost a lot of that (mainly healers sadly). The only time that they got to play one of our better comps later on was in the 29 minute novare against MvP, and I think anyone can say that was a good match. So yes, MvP did win overall a larger amount of games, but at the same time, we had gone 7-3 when we had our good comp together. Going 3-2 when we had exactly even gear. I'd say that assuming both teams had gotten their full teams together it would have been much more equalized later on as it was early on, but it doesn't matter as MvP did one thing better than Harbinger absolutely. They were able to consistently get their best players on, where as Harbinger was not able to. So kudos to them, they played excellently. Claiming that one team was better than the other seems to almost be a moot point as I already said, we had won or split our early games when we had the people even with equal gear, and lost later on when we didn't.

I think Bastion does have a few more teams that queue, right now Harbinger has 5 total teams that queue up for competitive matches, and of those 4 of them tend to be the dominant forces with the last eeking out wins through DC's and the like. If you're looking for truly competitive PvP, I would say that Bastion is likely a better place to be.


ALSO:

Anyone claiming that MvP was beaten heavily by us on the PTS over in the APAC forums is not anyone from the represented teams over there on Harbinger. The final score board between the two guilds was 9-12, in favor of MvP winning 12 if I remember correctly. Our score vs casual was an even split with 6-6 and vs nostrum dolus we only played one game that resulted in a loss with one of our extremely bad comps. So 0-1 vs them.

To me, those were the only teams actually worth talking about on the PTS, we played a few others but those teams seemed to not give much of a problem.
Was your PTS team a combination of players from multiple Harbinger guilds? Because if there was a "Bastion" team comprised of the best players from the Bastion and not just MVP ..... just sayin. MVP is generally the most successful team on the Bastion, but they don't have the best player on the server for all 8 roles by any means.
55s: POT5- Kakarrotx-Sent, Paraguss-Sorc, Brawlly-Jug, Meleehealer-Mara
Bastion- Greenn-Mando, Radishz-Scoundrel, Trunkks-Shadow, Burdok-Sniper, Lettucce-PT

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Morde_
03.28.2013 , 09:18 PM | #12
Quote: Originally Posted by JediMasterSLC View Post
Was your PTS team a combination of players from multiple Harbinger guilds? Because if there was a "Bastion" team comprised of the best players from the Bastion and not just MVP ..... just sayin. MVP is generally the most successful team on the Bastion, but they don't have the best player on the server for all 8 roles by any means.
What's your fantasy football style Bastion RWZ team?
Scold
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I will also offer to duel your marauder, for any amount of money
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i dont have cold feet. im just not going to give away $300 walking into an unwinnable situation.
Biggest welch in Bastion history.
carried by jonie

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IAmViiOLENT
03.28.2013 , 09:19 PM | #13
Quote: Originally Posted by JediMasterSLC View Post
Was your PTS team a combination of players from multiple Harbinger guilds? Because if there was a "Bastion" team comprised of the best players from the Bastion and not just MVP ..... just sayin. MVP is generally the most successful team on the Bastion, but they don't have the best player on the server for all 8 roles by any means.
The first two nights (ie- the most successful nights) it was only players from the same guild. Later on, we started taking players from other guilds and thats when it got messy.

Team cohesion has something to speak for it, more so than just a collection of the best players.

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Gudarzz
03.28.2013 , 09:49 PM | #14
Quote: Originally Posted by Morde_ View Post
We'd have to consult Uncle Gudarzz for the official scoreboard, but I'm pretty certain that we ended up with a positive record against Harbinger.

They beat us some games, we beat them more games.
The official score against Squirtle Squad is 14-8 in favor of MVP. This includes all the QQ gear and DC excuses from both teams. I would post a picture of the infamous "whiteboard" that I used to keep track of our PTS scores, but I would get banned for some inappropriate drawings....
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World first to /gquit <Hey im mvp>

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Gomex
03.29.2013 , 03:42 AM | #15
Quote: Originally Posted by Morde_ View Post
What's your fantasy football style Bastion RWZ team?
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snakedoctor

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Morde_
03.29.2013 , 09:00 AM | #16
Quote: Originally Posted by Gomex View Post
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snakedoctor
Smackyo
Smakyo
Sharkyn
Sharkyo
Lickyo
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Schwarzeneggeryo
Sharkyn
Scold
Quote: Originally Posted by LegendaryQuan View Post
I will also offer to duel your marauder, for any amount of money
Quote: Originally Posted by LegendaryQuan View Post
i dont have cold feet. im just not going to give away $300 walking into an unwinnable situation.
Biggest welch in Bastion history.
carried by jonie

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JediMasterSLC
03.29.2013 , 09:48 AM | #17
Quote: Originally Posted by Morde_ View Post
What's your fantasy football style Bastion RWZ team?
Well if faction respecs were a thing, then

luxford sorc heals (best NA)
hoodrat (sorry scold but dis guy hax) OP heals
justbodies jug tank (ok that gets the 1 compulsory MVP member out of the way)
deft (i hear he's #1, forgot what class he plays, i'm sure it's a tough one tho)
blamo (melee gunslinger....................ya)
grafx (somehow jiraya still hulk smashes nubs on a shadow)
antipode (class irrelevant)
yours truly watchman sent (after BW reverts healing nerf so I can break 300k heals, f*** PVE balance)
55s: POT5- Kakarrotx-Sent, Paraguss-Sorc, Brawlly-Jug, Meleehealer-Mara
Bastion- Greenn-Mando, Radishz-Scoundrel, Trunkks-Shadow, Burdok-Sniper, Lettucce-PT

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Rilok_Singz
03.29.2013 , 11:08 AM | #18
Quote: Originally Posted by JediMasterSLC View Post
Well if faction respecs were a thing, then

luxford sorc heals (best NA)
hoodrat (sorry scold but dis guy hax) OP heals
justbodies jug tank (ok that gets the 1 compulsory MVP member out of the way)
deft (i hear he's #1, forgot what class he plays, i'm sure it's a tough one tho)
blamo (melee gunslinger....................ya)
grafx (somehow jiraya still hulk smashes nubs on a shadow)
antipode (class irrelevant)
yours truly watchman sent (after BW reverts healing nerf so I can break 300k heals, f*** PVE balance)
this team needs more from kungaming and/or into the darkness tbh
S h a d o w R i l o k | G u a r d i a n R y y j i n
F a t a l i t y | S y n e r g y

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Megatfx
03.29.2013 , 11:26 AM | #19
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Megatfx
03.29.2013 , 12:21 PM | #20
http://www.twitch.tv/razgrizthree/b/375801297

There is the stream of all the matches Casual played that day. The first 3 games me and Thingone weren't playing Thermal Detonator. We lost to Nostra Domus, beat Uncensored, and lost to you. We swapped to Thermal Detonator and went undefeated against you for the rest of the day.

Here is the tally of all of Casuals Matches against ALL teams on 3/9/13

Nostra Domas - Civil War - 0-190 (Loss) - You can verify this loss at 20:56 in the stream.
Uncensored - Ancient Hypergates - 839 - 609 (Win) - You can verify this win at 40:00 in the stream.
The Squirtle Squad - Civil War - 0-150 (Loss) - You can verify this loss at 1:25:00 on the stream.
Uncensored - Huttball - 6-2 (Win) - You can verify this win at 1:37:00 on the stream.
The Squirtle Squad - Ancient Hypergates - 708-494 (Win) - You can verify this win at 1:58:00 on the stream. Kills 31-9 <Casual>
The Squirtle Squad - Huttball - 6-1 (Win) - You can verify this win at 2:25:15 on the stream. Kills 10-12 <Squirtle>
The Squirtle Squad - Ancient Hypergates - 684-458 (Win) - You can verify this win at 2:51:30 on the stream. Kills were 18-18.
The Squirtle Squad - Huttball - 6-1 (Win) - You can verify this win at 3:08:00 on the stream. Kills were 18-5.
The Squirte Squad - Voidstar - 1-0 (Win) - You can verify this at 3:24:12. Kills were 32-21 <Squirtle> (You beat us in kills because we capped the first door against you at the 4 minute mark and you never got past our first door)
The Squirtle Squad - Ancient Hypergates - 680-322 (Win) - You can verify this win at 5:22:18 on the stream. Kills were 34-2 <Casual>
The Squirtle Squad - Voidstar - 1-0 (Win) - You can verify this win at 5:39:30 on the stream. Kills were 28-22 <Squirtle> (You beat us in kills because we capped the first door against you guys at over the 5 minute mark and you never got past our first door)

According to the stream of all the Ranked matches on that day, final tally against you was 7-1, with you getting one early win against <Casuals> first day of RWZ matches.

Again I digress, you beat <Casual> the very next week ONE game on Voidstar where I played on your team, did the HIGHEST damage on your team, and 130k protection. Ballzballzballz did 25k less damage than me and only did a measely 46k protection and he's your best PT. You can verify this win where I CARRIED you here:

1:49:55 second mark.
http://www.twitch.tv/razgrizthree/b/376316759