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The BattleZone! Round 1 Match 02: Darth Malak vs. Darth Nyriss

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The BattleZone! Round 1 Match 02: Darth Malak vs. Darth Nyriss

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Aurbere
03.27.2013 , 01:39 PM | #1
Welcome to the second match in the first round of The BattleZone! Our previous match-up saw the powerful Master Thon triumph over the skill of Vodo-Siosk Baas aboard Exis Station.

This time, however, we are pitting two powerful Sith Lords against each other. The co-founder of Drath Revan's Sith Empire, Darth Malak, battles the destroyer of Melldia, Darth Nyriss.

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Lightsaber Skill:

Darth Malak:

Darth Malak was trained in the physical aspects of The Force and honed his skills in lightsaber combat. He employed an aggressive one-handed attack style, and was known as one of the most skilled duelists of his time. He used his lightsaber skills to defeat Bastila Shan and engage in a fierce duel with the redeemed Jedi Knight Revan.

Darth Nyriss:

The Dark Council member was considerably talented in the art of lightsaber combat. Through a combination of Force Speed and her considerable skill with the lightsaber, she was able to subdue Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik.

Edge: While Nyriss' skills are rather ambiguous, she has proven herself a capable duelist. However, I think the edge goes to Darth Malak in this area.

Force Power:

Darth Malak:

As Dark Lord of the Sith, Darth Malak wielded many different abilities. He was capable of using Force Lightning, Force Choke, and Dark Healing, as well as several other abilities. He proved himself capable of tapping into his darker emotions to increase his speed and strength.

Darth Nyriss:

Strong in the Dark Side of the Force, Darth Nyriss was able to use many dark abilities. She was able to use Sith Sorcery, Force Lightning and several other abilities that would prove helpful in her victory over Lord Scourge and Meetra Surik.

Edge: Again, Darth Nyriss' powers are not as well known as Malak's, but she has proven herself to be very powerful in the use of the Dark Side, giving her the edge.

(Note that when I give the edge to someone, it is just my opinion)

Who will win? Who is truly superior?
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Beniboybling
03.27.2013 , 01:51 PM | #2
Not sure on this one... but I think I'd give this to Nyriss, she being a Dark Council member of the 'True Sith' and also possessing supposedly exceptional skill in Sith magic - which will give her a considerable edge. Malak on the other hand is just your standard Sith Lord, and this time he doesn't have the Star Forge.

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Ventessel
03.27.2013 , 03:57 PM | #3
Malak's "one handed style" is almost certainly Makashi, which would fit with his reputation as a peerless duelist. I would equate him to someone cut from the same cloth as Dooku. He's really only faced defeat at the hands of the most powerful Force user in his era, much as Dooku only had to fear Yoda/Sidious, and while his Force repertoire is not exactly varied, it's effective.

Malak is quite strong in the Force, he just chooses to use it as a weapon more than anything else. Force lightning, Choke, and powerful leaps/speed to aid in his melee combat.

Nyriss can probably keep up with Malak in lightsaber combat, but would eventually lose in that respect unless able to gain the edge through the Force, decisively.

So it comes down to, can Nyriss find a way to use Sith Sorcery or something similar to tip the tide in her favor before Malak overwhelms her with his ferocious, Force-fueled offensive?
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Aurbere
03.28.2013 , 10:44 AM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventessel View Post
So it comes down to, can Nyriss find a way to use Sith Sorcery or something similar to tip the tide in her favor before Malak overwhelms her with his ferocious, Force-fueled offensive?
Judging from my vague memory of the Revan novel, she did use the Force quite a bit in her final battle. So I think they are equal in that respect.
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Selenial
03.28.2013 , 02:00 PM | #5
Wow, the ambiguous response from Beni has really made me think about this...

I would have said Nyriss, besting surik is no small feat.... However, she built up her power beforehand, in the same way Darth Xedrix did whilst facing scourge, and whilst this was not explicitly said in the book, scourge hinted she was using the same style as Xedrix, and when she had no power left to resurrect a barrier, it was pretty obvious the lightning strikes took all of her power... That and the fact Surik was being oppressed by the Dark Side Nexus on Dromund Kaas, same as she had been on Malachor V, otherwise undoubtedly she would have out up a better fight.

In any normal circumstance I would have given that fight to surik, thus I would give this fight to Malak, Nyriss would realise using all her energy at once would be too risky, it did not work for Xedrix... She would have to face Malak in a true duel, and I think his superior skill with a lightsaber (probably Makashi though I don't know) would eventually overwhelm her.... Even without the star forge.
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YoshiRaphElan
03.28.2013 , 02:53 PM | #6
This is a good one. Malak is no pushover with a lightsaber, but Nyriss was old and withered physically, leading me to believe she would rely on the Force. Her incredibly powerful build-up of lightning was just that: a build-up. She could not have done it more than once in the same fight. My belief is that unless she pushed Malak back long enough to build up the lightning, he'd tear her apart before she got the chance. Remember he's a Sith Lord too, so if it was just any old burst of lightning she unleashed he could easily reflect it, even back at her.

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Selenial
03.28.2013 , 05:14 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by YoshiRaphElan View Post
so if it was just any old burst of lightning she unleashed he could easily reflect it, even back at her.
Hell no, lets not overestimate him. He's not Revan, he wouldnt stand a chance of reflecting it back, he would have to make sure she didnt get it off in the first place.
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Ventessel
03.29.2013 , 12:25 AM | #8
Quote: Originally Posted by Selenial View Post
Hell no, lets not overestimate him. He's not Revan, he wouldnt stand a chance of reflecting it back, he would have to make sure she didnt get it off in the first place.
Malak is quite the tactical duelist, I'm sure he could guard himself effectively with his lightsaber and ward off shorter bursts of lightning, keeping enough momentum to prevent Nyriss from charging up a really powerful blast.

I would expect Malak to be strong enough in the Force to keep from getting dominated by Nyriss, while overwhelming her with his melee offensive and dueling skills.
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Aurbere
03.29.2013 , 11:33 AM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Not sure on this one... but I think I'd give this to Nyriss, she being a Dark Council member of the 'True Sith' and also possessing supposedly exceptional skill in Sith magic - which will give her a considerable edge. Malak on the other hand is just your standard Sith Lord, and this time he doesn't have the Star Forge.
I don't think Malak is a standard Sith Lord. Sure he doesn't have the Star Forge, but he is powerful in his own right. Though I do agree that Nyriss' abilities in Sorcery give her an edge.
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Aurbere
03.29.2013 , 07:21 PM | #10
I'm not convinced on who would win yet. Malak's probable (likely) superior skill in lightsaber combat gives him an edge, but how great of an impact will it have against Nyriss. She is very powerful in the Dark Side, and this time Malak doesn't have the Star Forge to back him.
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"Your only hope to survive is to give in to the rage boiling within you, to acknowledge the Dark Side you deny, and tap into it!"--Darth Tyranus