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What's your opinion on mob-dodging in flash points?

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What's your opinion on mob-dodging in flash points?

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Ghostius
03.13.2013 , 07:46 AM | #11
I completely understand skipping trash and bosses in HM FPs, everyone needs only tokens or columi pieces from last boss. All other gear is given when you reach lvl50.
But I will never understand skipping trash in leveling FPs. Trash mobs = experience, so after so many years of playing Mmos, I dont get it.

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LarryRow
03.13.2013 , 07:56 AM | #12
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At this point, I think Lost Island should just start at that first boss. There are like 27 different routes to avoid the trash before that guy.
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Fiamma_Verde
03.13.2013 , 08:27 AM | #13
Not such a big deal/it's kind of nice in HM, though it can be a bit of a pain when I que up for one for something to do, then get tV and skip everything.

I'm leveling an alt now though, with a class/roll that I have no experience with. It can be very very frustrating when people insist on skipping everything. Not only do I want the gear to make leveling faster, but I really want the experience with the new class, and learn how to play properly. I mean skipping a few trash packs isn't a big deal but I'd like to at leaf try the harder pulls.

Plus there is really no reason to boss skip on sm tV. I mean do you really want those 5 Balmorra coms that badly?!

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Kufuffelupagus
03.13.2013 , 08:34 AM | #14
Everyone's got a different agenda. Some here only want the best loot from the bosses, others want experience playing their class and the XP from trash...

I only do FPs for the commendations and the gear drops- if they're even my level. My most precious commodity is time, so I like to skip as much as possible. However, I'll never give people a hard time if they want to do all the trash and the bonus missions. (I'll just complain to myself about it.)

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Kawabonga
03.13.2013 , 08:49 AM | #15
i like mobs only when i'm on my marauder... 4 second fights with 5 8000s on the screen that's even faster than skipping considering the 30m leap, and since i'm the superfast run idiot dps that rushes forward, usually mobs are dead before the rest of the group even reach the place... some of them at least

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SalBasss
03.13.2013 , 08:53 AM | #16
I think LI was designed so you could skip the trash if you wanted. It's a pretty deliberate shortcut so it just had to be designed that way.

For the most part my guild skips everything possible with two exceptions:

1. We always do the bonus boss in LI (he's easy, so why not).
2. There is one trash pull shortly before the turret fight in Kaon that can be a little tricky to avoid if you don't do it perfectly - so we just pull. If I'm with a PUG I "accidentally" aggro them because PUGs seem to wipe there more often than not.

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cidbahamut
03.13.2013 , 09:33 AM | #17
I'm not a fan of avoiding mobs, especially in PUGs where there's no coordination to speak of.

Inevitably it ends up with half the party trying to dodge past them while the other half of the party stands around confused as to what the other two are doing. Sooner or later one of the confused members will try to sneak past the mobs too but ends up aggroing everything and it all devolves into a huge mess.

That and avoiding mobs is boring. I'm there to crack skulls and chew through the content, if I wanted to skip it I wouldn't have entered the Flashpoint to begin with.

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Seireeni
03.13.2013 , 10:27 AM | #18
Mobs are just bacis cannon food, and I've killed plenty of basic cannon food already. It's getting boring. I mean, I like killing mobs that actually provide some challange is fun (like that first one on Red Reaper, at least if the 3 strong maras run to the battle, not sure if they are supposed to or does someone always aggro them lol). My healer got killed there many, many times but I still like it, because it's a challenge.
But most of the mobs, it's just not worth the time. When leveling, if I just want xp while doing regular mobs, I just do normal missions. Fps I join when I get bored and want something a little more challenging.

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psandak
03.13.2013 , 10:35 AM | #19
Personally, I do not care whether a group kills all trash and/or all bosses or not. In all candor, with a good group killing the trash and optional bosses does not add that much more time to the run. As a matter of fact, on my tank that happens to be in all BH+ gear (and therefore I only run for the BH Comms), I have recently done a FULL run of Taral V (including the bonus boss), and killed all bosses in Battle of Ilum (two HM FPs where a LOT is typically skipped).

What bugs me is inconsistency and when one person in the group does not go along with the majority. If you want to skip everything except one (optional) boss tell the group - don't just wait at that boss and expect the rest of the group to cater to your wants. If you want to kill everything and the rest of the group wants to skip everything (or vice versa), you need to accept the fact that the majority of the group wants to run the FP differently and then make a choice: go with the flow or leave the group. Don't throw a three-year-old's temper tantrum because you are not getting what you want.

In short, communication is key. Let the group know what you want to do. You would probably be surprised that most of the time, even those who only want the comms, are willing to accommodate you. But when they are not, you need to accept that fact and move on.

One more thing that bugs me, is players who rage quit when I engage a mob that could be skipped if it was in the right place, but it is not, so I engage it. Most of the time, it is faster to kill that patrolling mob than to wait for it to patrol away.

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mikebevo
03.13.2013 , 10:53 AM | #20
I have no real opinion on mobs. I just go with the flow of the group. If the group wants to skip, I skip, if the group want to kill everything and even do every bonus, I will do it. However, if we are killing or skipping, I want the group to stay with my range (both of my mains are healers on the imp and rep sides). With my gear on either toon, if people are in range of me, then there will be no wipes on any trash in any HM FPs, even a death is going to be rare, provided they didnít run off way ahead of the rest of the group.

One of the reasons I donít mind skipping while leveling is (example) my Sith Warrior is already 4 levels higher than the content and she is only level 25. However, I just skip heroics and fp for awhile in their entirety, unless a guild mate/friend corners me just to get a group going. I donít want the xp, but again, will do it if that is what the group wants to do. To me it should be a group decision.