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Kaggath Tournament Finals - Traya vs G0-T0

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Kaggath Tournament Finals - Traya vs G0-T0

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Ventessel
02.28.2013 , 09:44 AM | #131
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
Yeah, no beasts. And while assassinating Traya will be difficult, activating the MSG will not be so difficult... but as others have said, she will likely be on Korriban anyway and perhaps use Malachor as a decoy. So really that's what we should be discussing.
Won't it? It is very illogical for Traya to abandon her fortress in the heart of Malachor without taking steps to defend the MSG. If she is aware that it can be reactivated (if G0-T0 knows this, then she probably would as well) then it would make sense to have Assassins monitoring the components of the MSG to prevent G0-T0 from activating it, or at least have advance warning if he tries. This would allow Traya to mount a counter attack against his droids, and her forces would have the "home field advantage" so to speak, of feeding off Malachor's energies.
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Warren-Stride
02.28.2013 , 05:35 PM | #132
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventessel View Post
I don't think that Traya will be taken by surprise. The HK-50 Units are hardly known for their subtlety, so an attempt to assassinate Traya would probably become violent long before they reached the Trayus Core. After all, Traya is surrounded by Sith Assassins (I'd imagine they have pretty good awareness of their surroundings) and various other Sith Acolytes and Troopers.
As Beni pointed out earlier in the debate, the Trayus Core is a giant hole, straight down to the middle of the planet. You know, big anough for the Ebon Hawk to fly through. The HK-50's could drop down through that opeening, and BOOM, there's faced with a Traya who can't sense their presense. Also, Traya was usually alone in the Core, seeing as it's her meditation chamber.
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Warren-Stride
02.28.2013 , 05:39 PM | #133
Quote: Originally Posted by Beniboybling View Post
But as others have said, she will likely be on Korriban anyway and perhaps use Malachor as a decoy. So really that's what we should be discussing.
There's no logical reason Traya would leave Malachor.

The only argument I see for why she would leave is because then she would be safe from the scenarios that have been presented. Which doesn't make any sense, seeing as Traya doesn't know these are going to happen.

If she doesn't forsee Malachor being destroyed because when it does it results in her death, she'll assume it's safe. She'll have no senses that G0-T0's droids are coming or even on the planet. She'll know that any biological forces will be corrupted, which means leaving will leave her open to attack from G0-T0's othjer bounty hunters.

Plus Korriban is a much less defendable location.
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02.28.2013 , 05:43 PM | #134
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventessel View Post
Won't it? It is very illogical for Traya to abandon her fortress in the heart of Malachor without taking steps to defend the MSG. If she is aware that it can be reactivated (if G0-T0 knows this, then she probably would as well) then it would make sense to have Assassins monitoring the components of the MSG to prevent G0-T0 from activating it, or at least have advance warning if he tries. This would allow Traya to mount a counter attack against his droids, and her forces would have the "home field advantage" so to speak, of feeding off Malachor's energies.
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2.) Other Droids
Again, Traya will not be able to see this attack coming, seeing as they are droids. These droids, including fake G0-T0s and Remote-clones, could land on Malachor and attempt to activate the Mass Shadow Generator. They're small and also deadly, while not being affected by Malachor's darkness. A lot like the remote. The G0-T0 clones could stealth as well, avoiding any defenses or Storm Beasts. Being the brilliant droid computer that he is, G0-T0 could probably equip one of his droids with a hacker/slicer. G0-T0 obviously knew of the MSG, so this would be a key plan of attack.
The process to activate the MSG is incredibly easy. All one of G0-T0's droids would have to do is stealth up to the terminal. The Sith Assassins, even if stealthed, would not be able to detect the droids (through the Force or sight) before they activated the MSG.
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Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?

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Canino
02.28.2013 , 06:18 PM | #135
The fake G0-T0's would be quite effective actually. They are known to have flamethrowers, which can't exactly be blocked by a lightsaber. The assassins would also have to fight through many of them to HOPEFULLY find G0-T0. Sorry for not posting in a while. Stupid life- why are we suddenly busy?!?!?!?
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steaktrooper
02.28.2013 , 06:32 PM | #136
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Ventessel
02.28.2013 , 09:38 PM | #137
Quote: Originally Posted by Warren-Stride View Post
The process to activate the MSG is incredibly easy. All one of G0-T0's droids would have to do is stealth up to the terminal. The Sith Assassins, even if stealthed, would not be able to detect the droids (through the Force or sight) before they activated the MSG.
Stealth is hardly infallible, it merely confers an advantage when attempting to infiltrate. The assassins will likely have the perception skills to detect the droids.

There's also the matter that G0-T0 may not be able to immediately figure out how to activate the MSG. It would require some slicing and decoding on his part, which vastly increases the chance of detection as well.


And on the topic of assassination, does G0-T0 know about the Trayus Core? It's not exactly obvious which particular chasm to fly down on Malachor. The only way the Exile found it was by going through the Trayus Academy.
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GarfieldJL
03.01.2013 , 01:44 PM | #138
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventessel View Post
Stealth is hardly infallible, it merely confers an advantage when attempting to infiltrate. The assassins will likely have the perception skills to detect the droids.

There's also the matter that G0-T0 may not be able to immediately figure out how to activate the MSG. It would require some slicing and decoding on his part, which vastly increases the chance of detection as well.


And on the topic of assassination, does G0-T0 know about the Trayus Core? It's not exactly obvious which particular chasm to fly down on Malachor. The only way the Exile found it was by going through the Trayus Academy.
That goes both ways though, and since G0-T0's stunt doubles can hover without kicking up dust, they have the advantage, cause the Sith Assassins leave footprints.

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Ventessel
03.01.2013 , 02:55 PM | #139
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That goes both ways though, and since G0-T0's stunt doubles can hover without kicking up dust, they have the advantage, cause the Sith Assassins leave footprints.
But are their motivators silent? Droids usually make a distinct sound while hovering.
The Heir to ChaosAdded Chapter Sixteen-- 17 APR 2013
“People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf.” ~ George Orwell

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Warren-Stride
03.01.2013 , 04:36 PM | #140
Quote: Originally Posted by Ventessel View Post
And on the topic of assassination, does G0-T0 know about the Trayus Core? It's not exactly obvious which particular chasm to fly down on Malachor. The only way the Exile found it was by going through the Trayus Academy.
The Exile went through the Academy because she had to.

Remember that the Ebon Hawk seemed to have no trouble not only finding it, but also flying down into it. Heck, G0-T0 could fly his yacht down to blast Traya to peices. (That was a hyberbole. But now that I think about it...)

Also, G0-T0 has plenty of sensor droids that could remain undetected. I'm sure he'd send them ahead to scout the place out.
~~ AiR ~~
What are you more afraid of?
A weapon that could destroy you?
Or a weapon that could turn you into a monster?