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please stop catering all ingame rewards to only the top operations guilds

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please stop catering all ingame rewards to only the top operations guilds

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Vis-Tecum
02.20.2013 , 03:16 PM | #1
since launch I have been a dedicated player and have completed all the content available to me with nothing to show except a legacy bar that was filled months ago.

my biggest gripe is that nothing is rewarded to players for time spent in game and the accomplishments outside of the highest operation boss, and I'm only talking about cosmetic rewards.[titles mounts and pets]

the fortunate top end operations guilds are already rewarded with exclusive content, best in slot gear, high-end crafting material and easier access to schematics making it easier to attain massive amounts of credits along with exclusive mounts titles and pets. don't you think that is a little much to be rewarding the less than 1% of your player base especially since those of us unfortunate enough to not be included in one of these guilds didn't even get a title for legacy 50.

the reputation system is good but still you feel the need to reward the handful of people who will win the drop for the dwedtoof pet [out of the 1 or 2 guilds able to get 24+ man groups together of high end raiders plus back healers] instead of making it the legendary reward for reputation. [what is the reward for legendary? oh that's right there isnt one... /rollseyes] so what you're saying to players is that someone who is in a top operations guild is more important than someone who is in game running dailies and being part of the games community. it's not like high end raiders couldn't grind rep like the rest of us peasants, [though I understand bioware and the "raiders" feel that it is beneath them because they're so leet]but most of us cant farm 24+ man high end bosses. again you pile rewards on the few and do nothing for the masses playing and supporting your game. exclusive content, gear, and mats, should be enough for any "raider" to go after the content. [also allot of high end raiders don't even care about stuff like pets] it is a slap in the face to cater all the in game rewards to such a small percent of the player base when there is no rewards or incentive to complete content for people unable to kill these bosses. except having to grind the credits to be able to afford the prices set by the high end ops guilds who are rewarded with easy mats and schematics to unfairly gouge us peasants. and with that these pet drops are BOP so us peasants cant even grind endlessly to get the credits to buy from already bloated credit banks of these ops guilds because everything is catered to them.

in the end you want me to waste my effort and time to grind rep for a inferior skinned pet that isn't even the top level of rep for rewards [to diminish its exclusivity but making the highend ops pet drops really rare so again us peasents dont get the chance to even have something slightly rare] and deny me the chance to even acquire pets that aren't cartel pack trash so you can pile even more rewards on top of ops guilds that do not contribute to or include the majority of the games player base.

so I ask please make the few pets in game that are NOT from cartel packs NOT exclusive to top level operations. it would be nice to have something to do other than sitting on fleet even if it's more grinding dailies because that is literally all you can come up with for content.

this also wouldn't even be a concern to me if the rewards were balanced like they used to be, pvpers small guilds and small ops teams should be rewarded with the same level of rewards that the top ops guilds are rewarded with for their time spent in game and accomplishments. [not the same reward but the same quality of the reward] the top ops guilds are getting titles mounts and pets along with exclusive content, gear, and availability for mats and schematics, we got nothing for legacy 50 and now are getting nothing for high end rep or maxed pve or pvp comms. so why play then...
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MajikMyst
02.20.2013 , 03:21 PM | #2
So?? What is the suggestion?? You want Dread gear to drop out of EV story mode?? Not going to happen..

Or is that not what you are asking for??
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Vis-Tecum
02.20.2013 , 03:25 PM | #3
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
So?? What is the suggestion?? You want Dread gear to drop out of EV story mode?? Not going to happen..

Or is that not what you are asking for??
if you took the time to read the post you would know I was talking about the cosmetic rewards and my suggestion was to have the rewards for the rep grind max level equal to the pet and mount drops from the highest end ops bosses. both take time and effort to accomplish along with grinding pvp and all 3 should be rewarded equally.

as I said, exclusive content gear and easily accurided scematics and crafting material is reward enough for people completing the hardest content, not making pets mounts and titles avaiable to the other aspects of the game is catering to a single group and playtype, and like I said it is even more noticeable when they dont reward the other playstyles AT ALL

I fully understand and agree with gear drops going to operations and pvp gear needing ranked comms that is fine but do only the top end ops guilds need exclusive access to the only pets and mounts not from cartel packs on top of the gear and other rewards.

isnt it a little much to be rewarding a very very very small precent of the playerbase just because they have the reasources to put 24+ people together and use the "creative use of mechanics" excuse? is that the type of game play that is to be rewarded over players time spent and involvement within the game as a whole?

we get it, you are good, you have alot of good people. you already get all the best gear, crafting materials schematics and tons of credits to buy what ever you want in game along with getting to experiance 2 maybe 3 fights the rest of us may never see... can us peasents please have some rare cosmetic pets and mounts that are NOT accuired through ops to show we put in the time and effort in game too. dont worry you will still be better then us and can sleep well knowing how leet you are at a video game with minimal playerbase unlike wow raiders where a server 1st means something. but it would be nice to get a pet that wasnt cartel pack trash or attained by logging in
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jgoldsack
02.20.2013 , 03:32 PM | #4
Quote: Originally Posted by Vis-Tecum View Post
if you took the time to read the post you would know I was talking about the cosmetic rewards and my suggestion was to have the rep grind max level equal to the pet and mount drops from the highest end ops bosses. both take time and effort to accomplish along with grinding pvp and all 3 should be rewarded equally

as I said exclusive content gear and easily accurided scematics and crafting material is reward enough for people completing the hardest content, not making pets mounts and titles avaiable to the other aspects of the game is catering to a single group and playtype, and like I said it is even more noticeable when they dont reward the other playstyles at all
lol. Comparing the effort it takes to get the rep to completing top end operations is comparing apples to oranges. No, they should not provide equal rewards. You want those rewards, go run the ops. You should NOT be able to get them from solo content, which is what the rep grind is... solo content.

And no, I do not have the operations mounts or titles, because I don't run them, and I don't care if someone has a mount I don't have. It does not affect my enjoyment of the game.
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Vis-Tecum
02.20.2013 , 03:49 PM | #5
Quote: Originally Posted by jgoldsack View Post
And no, I do not have the operations mounts or titles, because I don't run them, and I don't care if someone has a mount I don't have. It does not affect my enjoyment of the game.
ignoring your first comment

it doesnt affect my enjoyment but it is unfair the devs cater to one aspect, and do not provide valuable rewards for time spent in game. I feel that my efforts in game are unappreciated by bioware and the dev team and also see no point in continuing to play since there is no reward for my time or efforts

again equall does not mean the same exact reward, just something fun for people to work twords who are not intrested in competivie raiding. the entire game isnt nightmare operations. and I guarantee I have more hours in game then any high end ops tams on my server. but bioware does not care about players like me, only the top ops teams

so many rewards have been included for the few best operations teams and we didnt even get a title for reaching legacy 50, something that took way more time to do then it took the top ops teams to beat NIM EC
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MitchPB
02.20.2013 , 04:30 PM | #6
Join a raiding guild then, problem solved

/thread
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Vis-Tecum
02.20.2013 , 04:42 PM | #7
Quote: Originally Posted by MitchPB View Post
Join a raiding guild then, problem solved

/thread
um... how does that change the fact that only one playstyle is being rewarded like this while the others are not.

and my guild does just fine in ops but has a hard enough time doing 16 mans let alone 24+ man top tier bosses with back healers but that is fine, I have no problem that we will probably never see the dread entity fight and had to craft gear just to get drops on the same level as what we got crafted.

my problem is with the baby drouk not being the highest level of rep but the dwedtoof being better skinned and a rare drop [unless its 10 stacks witch is rare enough by difficulty] these rewards are not even, and again the rare pet goes to the highest boss drop along with the access to exclusive content with nothing fun and cosmetic for people to work for out side of events and operations. its either be the best ops guild or buy cartel packs, nothing for time spent and effort in game.

and Im not saying that these ops bosses should not drop rare pets, thats fine. but they should not be the ONLY way to accuire a rare pet or equal cosmetic reward. but I know it hurts all you "raiders" in the pants to hear some one suggest that. its ok you're still better then everyone [except maybe pvpers ]
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Astral_Finite
02.20.2013 , 04:55 PM | #8
Your logic here fails, people who do end game ops have all invested a lot of time too, they will automatically get anything they add that you want and still have more cosmetic crap than you. Back to where you started.

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Vis-Tecum
02.20.2013 , 05:11 PM | #9
Quote: Originally Posted by Astral_Finite View Post
Your logic here fails, people who do end game ops have all invested a lot of time too, they will automatically get anything they add that you want and still have more cosmetic crap than you. Back to where you started.
thats fine I would still be rewarded with something for my time in game other than a rediculously high /played time

most raiders I know dont touch dailies with a ten foot poll and cry that they have to get the minimal datacrons to max their dps. so I dont think they would put in much effort for a rare cosmetic item but you are correct if they have the time and willingness to get the acheivement they can. and if they want to also grind out pvp comms and get the rare items that should be there for pvpers too they can do that too. but if they only want to do is ops, solo and pvpers shouldnt get all the rewards and the ops guilds be told "well you should pvp and run dailies more" all paytypes should be rewarded equally. again the game is not just nightmare operations, there are other ways to enjoy the game and that effort should be rewarded.

and plus its not "they have and I want" like everyone wants to believe over reading what I post. its that I want to feel rewarded for doing something other than operations too.

dont understand why its so hard for people to understand that raiding isnt everything, especially in swtor.. lol

for like the fifth time im not saying take away the drops from the ops, im saying add rare cosmetic rewards for other styles of gameplay too. didnt know that was so offensive to all you leet awesome raiders, I would of thought you had more selfesteem since youre such gods in game
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Elfa
02.20.2013 , 07:57 PM | #10
Quote: Originally Posted by MajikMyst View Post
So?? What is the suggestion?? You want Dread gear to drop out of EV story mode?? Not going to happen..

Or is that not what you are asking for??
That's not entirely accurate....
Quote: Originally Posted by Lunafox View Post
Calm down, I'd hardly call that whining. He just asked a question. Go have a coffee and calm down. Jeepers.
Lunafox nailed it. This is correct.