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60k repair bill!


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tdgesq
02.18.2013 , 08:37 PM | #101
Quote: Originally Posted by mothear View Post
Yeah difficult to argue with the truth, but meh, you all still keep trying.
There is no truth with which to argue. There isn't any plausible reason why repairs for legacy armor should be twice as high as repairs to a pve modded pvp set with the same mods that took just as much time and effort to obtain. It isn't about the money he spent then. It's about the money he's spending now; a cost implemented a week ago that arbitrarily assigns value to how much you can sell it for to an in-game vendor. As far as I can tell, he isn't complaining about how much he spent initially. Hopefully this clarifies things.

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Kirtastropohe
02.18.2013 , 08:41 PM | #102
some of us aren't great players, not with a particular class anyway. For instance, I have a marauder and yeah, i was able to get to 50 with it, but when it comes to playing the harder end-game things, I'm not great with it. I didn't really have a group to try and do the ilum event with, so I tried to do some of the simplier ones solo, a few deaths and I have a 50K repair bill.

I play this game a lot so I'm not a casual player. I'm just not that good with this character. I admit it, but I would think bioware would want to keep me as a subscriber. The more classes I try out, the longer I'm apt to pay and stay... having such a penalty for dying seems a bit extreme to me.

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mothear
02.18.2013 , 09:03 PM | #103
Quote: Originally Posted by tdgesq View Post
There is no truth with which to argue. There isn't any plausible reason why repairs for legacy armor should be twice as high as repairs to a pve modded pvp set with the same mods that took just as much time and effort to obtain. It isn't about the money he spent then. It's about the money he's spending now; a cost implemented a week ago that arbitrarily assigns value to how much you can sell it for to an in-game vendor. As far as I can tell, he isn't complaining about how much he spent initially. Hopefully this clarifies things.
Did you even bother reading both of Cleet's posts fully, or did you stop at the lazy bit? If so get past that and read it, as there is an awful lot of truth in what he is saying.

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JokerThe
02.18.2013 , 09:41 PM | #104
the most i ever got from repairs was atleast 10k and we only wiped onced and made 6x more when we finished.
stop whining

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Darka
02.18.2013 , 09:54 PM | #105
Is it a bug or working as intended?

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Catharian
02.18.2013 , 10:04 PM | #106
Someone did an analysis of the new repair costs and it is bugged, as the new formula seems to be taking the shell price into account, not just the mods in it. My lvl 15 alt had a 5.5k repair bill upon repairing from around 50% durability. I was doing the daily in hammer station and we wiped several (5-6?) times. He is wearing a full selection of cartel market orange and crafted orange gear with lvl appropriate mods (mostly lvl 11-13, a couple of 15's and a couple of 9's as well) IMO, a repair tab that large for a lvl 15 is a definite issue. Will a new player have the same issue in greens? Most likely not, but it is still an annoyance.
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Saitada
02.18.2013 , 10:06 PM | #107
Quote: Originally Posted by Sala View Post
After watching several patches come out since Beta that lowered the cost of repairs as well as mod'ing.

Now, all of the sudden the repair costs go skyhigh.

For those of you who do not understand what it happening here.. you dont even have to wipe. Just run your belsavis dailies and go check a repair droid before you leave. Mine was 35k. I never died.

This is the heart of the problem.

Operation TFB, 8 man run , 7 wipes, repair losses over 120k. Simply ridiculous.
Um.. dude. I'm BH geared Commando and ran all of Ilum (non heroics), all of Belsavis (regular non heroics) and all of The Black Hole dailies (non heroics) and my repair bill was under 6k total for al three planets. If you claim your repair was 35k for one planets dailies then frankly.... I'm calling BS on you, especially as my NON BH geared 50 Vanguard just finished Belsavis dailies with a total repair cost of 1353 credits (all her gear moddable and all lvl 50 purple mods btw).

Frankly, while the repair bills are more expensive, I am not seeing the costs you guys are claiming. Even after wiping on Xeno a few times my repair bill was still under 50k and I made that back and then some just off the event dailies.

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tdgesq
02.18.2013 , 10:07 PM | #108
Quote: Originally Posted by mothear View Post
Did you even bother reading both of Cleet's posts fully, or did you stop at the lazy bit? If so get past that and read it, as there is an awful lot of truth in what he is saying.
You mean the part about how we can get credits by doing things like, say, space missions and using our cartel coins to purchase items to sell on gtn? Yes, I read that. While true, I think we all kind of already knew that. I confess that I didn't see the part about ripping out the mods and putting it in a "cheaper" shell. That would be a tough decision, considering the cost and how much you'd already invested in that set of gear; not knowing whether BW will eventually adjust the repair prices or not.

Of course, none of that changes the fact that the relative increase in the price to repair his gear unfairly penalizes him as compared to other similarly rated armor sets. By a lot. So I would add the option to the list that Bioware simply fix the problem. He apparently took the option to unsub, and I don't disagree with him.

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Jadrian
02.18.2013 , 10:57 PM | #109
Quote: Originally Posted by Cleet_Xia View Post
I have read your thread, starting with the OP. It's either a troll thread or you believe that you've "paid enough credits" to be able to waltz through a HM.

I wouldn't say that I am a hardcore player. I wipe quite frequently. In fact I wipe on purpose just to travel to a med center if my QT is on CD. I pay repair bills everytime I see a vender. I've actually incurred repair bills just walking between two venders ~ without ever wiping or entering combat. And I've wiped a great many times while showing new players the ropes in HM FPs.

Where I don't wipe is in HM FPs while grouped with 3 players who have the free Tionese gear and actually know the boss fight mechanics.

If a "few" wipes are costing you 60K there are a limited number of possibilities.
1. You are in super expensive gear & wiping on content that you are grossly overgeared for.
~ or ~
2. You are wiping a LOT more than a "few" times, on content that you don't have the skill or knowledge for.
~ or ~
3. You are waiting to repair your gear until pieces fall off, which is the product of a lot more than a "few" wipes.
~ or ~
4. You and your group mates are ignoring the fight mechanics and expecting your gear to let you faceroll a boss.

If you like to wipe ~ by all means wipe away!
Otherwise...do some dailies until your bank/gear/ & skill are up to where you're not causing 3 other players to wipe in a FP and getting yourself blocked/ votekicked/ or gkicked.

Are you paying the repair bills for those other 3 players as well? For some reason I highly doubt it.

You don't do the dailies for the credits ~ you do them for the practice, warmup, & the comms. Credits are just a byproduct.

If you were not trying to short circuit the gear progression by jumping straight from the free Tionese to BH gear & skipping the dailies you might have noticed that some pieces of BH gear are a questionable upgrade. You would also be sitting on a fat wad of credits from the dailies. And you would have also learned by now that skill>gear in any of the Tier I HM FPs.

~EDIT~ You're complaining that your legacy gear cost too much to repair? Well NO kidding. You burned all your credits buying modable legacy gear! Where did you get the credits to blow on that?
lol someone didn't pay attention in debate class...

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wifeaggro
02.18.2013 , 11:29 PM | #110
Quote: Originally Posted by RixoFutu View Post
Making credits in SWTOR is very easy and you can do it in many ways. If you can't make 60k, you are very incompetent to play this game.
Point is you shouldnt be forced to grind repetive dailies that suck horribly when the main part of anything good in this game is HM FP or OPS. the content should be harder not make it harder to actually do the content. This game is azzbackwards in devolpment its a chees way to extend the life of avery shallow end game.
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