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Game Update 1.7 Developer Blog: Galactic Reputation

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Game Update 1.7 Developer Blog: Galactic Reputation
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WeadonismyMaster
02.10.2013 , 05:10 PM | #331
Wow - this is all great stuff. I mean really, and don't bother that a boat ton of us had been asking for CHAT BUBBLES TO BE FIXED....Really its cool. we dont matter at all.

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NeoWolf
02.10.2013 , 06:38 PM | #332
Quote: Originally Posted by Aries_cz View Post
Huh?
Gree should have plenty of solo missions
Space is solo
Section X is solo, except one mission
Voss heroics, unless they are some new ones, should be soloable at lvl 50
We don't know what the Gree event and/or bosses will consist of yet, but the very fact "bosses" are mention screams not soloable for it.

And its not Space missions its HARDmode space missions so your looking at a huge grind beforehand or a spend in the Cartel store to gear your ships up first and that providing you can do them.

Its Section X weekly and Section X missions and they arent all soloable with all classes. And the heroics definitely arent.

Voss heroics arent soloable with the exception of one or two. but then why would they be they are heroics and heroics arent intended for solo. the fact that some can be done and some can be skipped via some stealth classes and most can be turned to once out levelled and sorted (not the case with the voss ones) is moot.

By and large the only people making any headway with rep will be grouped people, and when you consider more or less 60% of a games populace solo predominantly, 20% gve or take raid and 20% give or take pvp then as i say it would seem the rep system is aimed at a minority, while largely excluding the majority, which just seems incredibly counter productive.
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tlatoanixxxAK
02.10.2013 , 07:13 PM | #333
Any idea how long the Event will be running?
Haven't met anyone that's blaster proof...

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intheolddayz
02.10.2013 , 08:55 PM | #334
Another pointless patch that will get boring after 1 day... Makeb can't come soon enough -_-

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merera
02.11.2013 , 01:01 AM | #335
Dear Jesse,

So we finally have in game the idea of NPC factions and reputations. It is not clear from the text whether there will be any changes in attitude from a particular NPC depending on my standing with it's faction. I mean - if my reputation with Imperial Guard on Belsavis is of a Legend - will imp guard turrets stop killing my Republic character? Probably not. Maybe, only the ones around bases on Belsavis? Something tells me no, no way.

Then there comes the natural question of losing reputation. If i do missions for the Republic will my Imperial reputation suffer? Nah, probably not. If my hands are awash in imp npc blood will Imperial Guard on Belsavis still list me as a Hero? Looks like the answer is yes. Hm.

OK, suppose I spent my whole time farming Republic reputation killing Imperial npc's and killing Imperial players in pvp and I've never done missions for the Empire. Will I still have Outsider status for the Imperial forces? Looks like yes. Well that's weird, guys. Just remember that Master Jun Seros had my Bounty Hunter blacklisted across the galaxy for way less serious crimes.

So here is the first point. Reputation should have the option of sinking into the negative too. A player's actions aimed at increasing his reputation with one faction should lower reputation(s) with at least one other faction. And it should be either extremely difficult or impossible to achieve excellent reputation with all factions simultaneously.

OK, suppose I am a legend of the Republic Fifth Assault Battalion. What do I get for that? Access to a new measly vendor? Bummer, guys, this idea failed in the LS-DS model, why would you care to repeat it? If I am a Sith Warrior, pure Light Side and a legend of the Republic forces I should perhaps have the option to use Republic stations and taxis and visit Coruscant, not just trade with some droid in section X.

Well, you've got it, my second point is that earning a reputation should perhaps have more outcome than just the option to get some new gear. Here I would have told you stuff about switching factions for characters but... Well I understand this is not exactly what this game is about.

Still the mere introduction of reputation could be a major step towards player-generated content, if you expand the feature right. Otherwise it will just become a new useless grind point.

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demotivator
02.11.2013 , 04:33 AM | #336
Grind is not fun, period.

Where's the exciting game we were still promised a couple years ago?
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Griad
02.11.2013 , 07:23 AM | #337
Quote: Originally Posted by Jagrevi View Post
Respectfully, I just wanted to say that I really, really dislike this idea. Enormously.

I don't believe this content is aimed primarily at people who nonsensically (story-wise) re-do story content again and again, I think it's aimed at people who don't, to focus them on content they can repeat and give them an incentive to actually repeat it. The reason people like this are in danger of falling out of the game? -> They have no interest in repeating story-heavy flashpoints.

I am assuming this a vanity grind to occupy people who are not running content like this because they have no interest in doing harder and harder modes of killing specific people they've already killed. Attatching this to flashpoints would just defeat the entire point. The people who are interested in repeating flashpoints already are.

Now you want to make some special new 'generic' "flashpoint" designed from a story point of view to be repeatable (maybe with a randomized boss name/appearance?) and attach it to that, sure, but I don't see that happening.
Remove all story element in NMM make the bosses harder, make everything harder, remove the option to skip packs and make the rewards worth the while and randomize loot so you wont get people all gunning for the same FP. Maybe make some minor twist or even better more FP
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Master_Hitsugaya
02.11.2013 , 08:30 AM | #338
well it does not seem that different from wow rep system which gave you some rewards and the closest thing to affecting npc reaction towards you is wait for it............................... a discount so it does not seem to be that bad and hey at least it gives something new to do/work towards.

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Griad
02.11.2013 , 08:39 AM | #339
Quote: Originally Posted by Nicolettexiv View Post
Would you rather sit around and do nothing between Raids? Or do the daily SM Op/HM FP for comms that aren't really needed if you've been at this for a while? Or how about rolling another alt? Frankly, it's something to do -- much like the wealth of grinds in other games, that were purely for titles or a chance at rare drops. At least this one offers special items and equipment, in addition to titles and "prestige".

"As your Reputation Rank increases, new rewards will become available to you. Throughout the galaxy, you will find Reputation Vendors associated with each organization. Special rewards with Reputation Rank requirements can be purchased from these vendors. Items and equipment with a Reputation Rank requirement can only be purchased, used, or equipped if you meet or exceed the rank requirement."
(Incentive beyond a title)

The "old" content are heroics on Voss (not the entire questline..), Section X, and Hard Mode space missions (presuming many people do the latter). Additionally we'll have the Gree enclave events.

In my opinion, something is better than nothing. I'd rather have things to do on my main, and encourage Bioware to do more while offering constructive feedback, as opposed to complaining about what progress they do make. Complaints rarely motivate one to work harder, especially when the community is impossible to please. They're damned if they do, damned if they don't.
I have to admit i would rather sit around fleet waiting for WZ or FP pop than do dailies and maybe even this new grind. I did dailies once where i did them all and have never done em since and i will never do them again its boring.
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Heezdedjim
02.11.2013 , 08:59 AM | #340
Quote: Originally Posted by intheolddayz View Post
Another pointless patch that will get boring after 1 day... Makeb can't come soon enough -_-
You think Makeb is not going to get boring after a day?